Another question for the conservatives here

[nbcrusader]

My thoughts - the actions taken do not follow Biblical teaching.

Now, so what, what do we do about this? Since the actions in question took place in the past, I refer to my prior response - you love them as brothers and sisters in Christ.

Are you trying to find a Christian who will stand and condemn them?? Believers need to focus on their own sin and help others not fall into future sin.

 

[martha]

Are you trying to find a Christian who will stand and condemn them??

No. I wanted to know people's thoughts on this.

 

[Blacksword]

You could say I'm conservative in that I interpret scripture as saying no sex before marriage, but as Melon siad how do you define marriage. If two people only had intercourse with each other the full length of thier lives and each made the decision to stay with the other for life yet never had a ceremony would anyone say they were not married? I do not care to know intimate personal details of my Ban'd lives nor am I in any position to judge or condemn. Even if I was I could understand Edge and Larry's actions in the context of the oppressive moral environmnet of Ireland. Either way I don't know or wish to know the details and it is not my business. The fact is that these relationships are monogamus and lasting and so in that light they do conform with scripture as they stand. As to the rest that's Someone else's department. Besides no one is perfect and any wrong a there might have been (again counting I know viruslly none of the details other than that Larry has been with one woman for years without formal marriage and Edge's formal marriage happened years after he and Morleigh had thier first kid) is hardly unforgivable considering the outcome of two loving families.

 

[Blacksword]

Oh and Melon. I must say I always find your bits of reseach hihgly interesting. While I may not totally agree with your interpretations I do wish there were more of such inquest into Christian beliefs and cannon.

 

[Dreadsox]

Interesting thread. I am not in the business of condemning. There are many things about the band that would not pass the "conservative Christian" test. I do not think the band claims to be conservative in their interpretation of what it means to be a Christian.

I am not in any sense of the word a "Conservative Christian". Just because I might find myself on the more conservative side of the fence politically does not mean I am conservative religiously.

 

[pub crawler]

I am not in any sense of the word a "Conservative Christian". Just because I might find myself on the more conservative side of the fence politically does not mean I am conservative religiously.

Cool.

 

[Blacksword]

yeah I'm all over the place too. Politically you would probably call me a Socialist. Though my personal view of Christianity has it left of centre socially and right of centre morally on most things as opposed to our present western society. Though the key word being generally.

 

[martha]

Ok, Blackie answered the question. Dreadsox did not. Try again, Dread.

 

[Dreadsox]

Ummm...OK....But I am not a "conservative christian"

Does it bother me? NO
Why not? They are human beings. We all at some point or another sin. I am not going to condemn them for premarital sex. I hope and pray that they are decent fathers to their children.


Peace

 

[Blacksword]

Should I be the one to put my neck on the block and open up a tread on sex-before marriage? Or should I let sleeping dogs lie?

 

[martha]

Thank you, Dread. Question answered successfully.

Blackie, do so at your own risk. We had a thread something along those lines several months ago. Names were called, people got mean. Not me, of course. I wouldn't. No. Never.

 

[Blacksword]

I figured as such. Hmmm.... do I want to make this my first thread....

 

[Dreadsox]

Thank you, Dread. Question answered successfully.

Just do not put me in the corner!

 

[Mrs. Edge]

I have the same question as Olive, but I wasn't sure if that had already been discussed ages ago. I am learning all these things about Christianity these days, and if Edge truly believes that you have to be a Christian to get into Heaven, then why isn't he freaking out that he and Morleigh won't be together in the afterlife? Why didn't he try to convert her?

As for me, I am not a conservative, so I say good for Edge and Larry! It's much more commendable to be unmarried, and stay together in a loving family than to be married and live in a miserable family.

 

[Blacksword]

YoIf sure Edge does have concerns over Morleigh's beliefs, its just that you can't go out and convert your spouse by waving a magic wand. In many cases bringing the good news to someone that close to you is the most difficult thing of all. It is very tricky and one has to stay away from a Messiah complex. Plus the other partner has to be willing and seeking. My father wasn't a Christian when he married my mother but he was seeking. It did place quite a strain on their early marriage though. However when I was born six years later my dad had just been ordained a minister. My Dad came to his faith himself with of courseloving support from my Mum, but in the end it was my Dad's choice. No one can convert another person only God with the acceptance of the person in question can.

 

[Mrs. Edge]

Yes, but what if one partner is quite happy with their own religion and has no intention of converting? How does the Christian partner handle that?

In my parents' case, it was even further in the opposite direction. My dad is a materialist/theosophist type, and my mom was a devout Anglican until she met him and then decided that Christianity was a bunch of nonsense.

 

[martha]

YoIf sure Edge does have concerns over Morleigh's beliefs,

Any evidence at all for this, or is it just wishful thinking on your part?