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Old 01-24-2005, 05:56 PM   #1
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Another Gay Idea

Just heard about this on the news.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...name_calling_4
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Old 01-24-2005, 06:11 PM   #2
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"But the fact is that 'faggot' is probably the most common insult at schools."



English definition: faggot, a bundle of sticks


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Old 01-24-2005, 06:31 PM   #3
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"But the fact is that 'faggot' is probably the most common insult at schools."



English definition: faggot, a bundle of sticks
We all know how 'faggot' is used don't kid yourself.

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No name calling. Period. How can this be wrong? I'm sure that includes no name calling for conservative Christians. So don't go playing victim.
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Old 01-24-2005, 06:36 PM   #4
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I rather like this idea. Even if you believe that homosexuality is a sin, and alot of good people do, that's no excuse to insult gay people. I grew up in a neighborhood where insulting was pretty acceptable, and I didn't like it. I still don't. I have issues going back to growinng up in that particular neighborhood. Others have had different experiences, but I would hope that we all think that insults are just not right.
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Old 01-24-2005, 07:43 PM   #5
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But I also see that the homophobes are out in force too:

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I hope schools will realize it's less an exercise in tolerance than a platform for liberal groups to promote their pan-sexual agenda," said Robert Knight, director of Concerned Women for America's Culture and Family Institute.

"Schools should be steering kids away from identifying as gay," Knight said. "You can teach civility to kids and tell them every child is valued without conveying the message that failure to accept homosexuality as normal is a sign of bigotry."

In Iowa, complaints by scores of parents about the gay themes in "The Misfits" prompted the Pleasant Valley School Board to rule that teachers could no longer read it aloud to elementary school classes, although it could remain in school libraries.

In Colorado, lawmakers last year rejected a proposal to declare a statewide "No-Name Calling Week" in conjunction with the inaugural GLSEN-backed event. House Majority Leader Keith King said he was concerned about fostering a "victim's mentality" and argued that children should be taught to ignore taunts.



One of GLSEN's most persistent critics is Warren Throckmorton, director of counseling at Grove City College, a Christian school outside Pittsburgh. His skeptical comments about "No Name-Calling Week" have been widely circulated this month on conservative Web sites.

"There's no question middle school can be a difficult place — I'm not advocating that any group gets mistreated," Throckmorton said in a telephone interview.

"But it will definitely make traditionally oriented teachers and parents and kids feel very uncomfortable, if they happen to object to homosexuality on moral grounds," he said of GLSEN's program. "If you disagree, you're hateful, you're bigoted, you're a homophobe. They're using name-calling to combat name-calling."

"Traditionally"oriented teachers, parents, and kids who engage in the type of behaviour this week is trying to prevent, are hateful, bigoted, homophobes. Any others, including those who don't find homosexuality to nest neatly with their beliefs, but don't engage in hateful, bigoted, homophobic behaviour, shouldn't be at all uncomfortable -- in fact they should also embrace this.
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Speaking as someone who was called vicious names throughout grade and high school...

Name-calling is cruel, stupid, and unneccessary. It does nothing but hurt others. Doesn't matter what is being called: f****t, n****r, k**e, dummy, fatso, four-eyes, ugly. They all hurt, they are all dehumanizing, belittling and just plain wrong.

I've never read the book in question, and don't know everything about this program, but name-calling and other mistreatment has gone on for far too long. Ignoring it only makes the bullies double their efforts, sometimes escalating into physical violence or vandalizing the victim's property. Calling names back is likely to get the original victim in trouble. Laughing at the perp will probably get you a punch in the nose. The old methods do not work, and I don't think they ever have.

Anything that calls attention to the problem and tries to teach a better way is appreciated. Those who object to No Name-Calling Week, if you've got a better idea, we're more than happy to hear it.
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n****r, k**e, dummy, fatso, four-eyes, ugly.
Will this no-name calling week do anything about these? Just wondering.
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Will this no-name calling week do anything about these? Just wondering.
Hopefully, eventually. That is the point of this excercise.
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That would be wonderful, actually, and would hopefully further the dignity of all people.
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Will this no-name calling week do anything about these? Just wondering.
From what I read, ALL name calling would be off limits, however the only part some people (and won't say who, but we all know who, don't we?) object to making off limits are those pertaining to homosexuals.
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Im sorry... this struck me as quite odd...

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I hope schools will realize it's less an exercise in tolerance than a platform for liberal groups to promote their pan-sexual agenda," said Robert Knight, director of Concerned Women for America's Culture and Family Institute.
These flipping loons are so crazy they cant even let a woman be the director of thier "womens group". Talk about pansexual!
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Im sorry... this struck me as quite odd...



These flipping loons are so crazy they cant even let a woman be the director of thier "womens group". Talk about pansexual!
Ha! That is pretty damned interesting.
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um, i wonder what would happen if name calling was banned in southpark?
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I guess that they will just say "that is so gay".
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"But the fact is that 'faggot' is probably the most common insult at schools."



English definition: faggot, a bundle of sticks


Big picture: tolerance for all but to those who dare to call something a sin because of their religious faith.

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I don't understand you post. Are you saying it should be okay to call some one a faggot? If so, I disagree with you completely.
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