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Old 09-18-2006, 11:47 AM   #1
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If you read the comments, people are debating if the professor had a right to do that and if what he did is acceptable



My personal initial reaction is, bravo. I am so sick of cell phones ringing everywhere, and of people talking on them everywhere. I can't believe the student actually answered it and started a conversation-that's how it appears in the video. For those of you in college-does that actually go on in class? Are there stated policies regarding cell phones in class?

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"Class disruption is not grounds for destruction of private property. The teacher should have asked the student to leave the room and left it at that; getting violent over the situation only shows how unprofessional the teacher is. If that's 'one of the best' at the school, then the school has some pretty low standards. Schools are supposed to educate students how to be better people, not get violent over something as small as a cell phone class disruption."

"It was private property until it rang, then it became a public nuisance. Disposing of a public nuisance is praiseworthy."


"Perhaps it was an mistargeted reaction but, in his defense, the appropriate thing to do would have been to beat the shit out of him in front of his parents and then beat his parents twice as hard. Anybody that clueless and rude needs a very demonstrative awakening offered to them to. He got it. And I'm glad. Hopefully he realizes just how socially retarded he truly is, and how miserably his parents failed him."


"I agree with Lordofcat, I think the rational and better decision would have been a warning of some sort. But still I kind of enjoy seeing the professor having the guts to punish the moron student."


Ok, maybe he could have and should have given him a warning first. He reacted out of anger but I do understand his anger completely-the student was being so rude and disrespectful. I enjoy seeing him have the "guts" to do that too, so many times I want to smash someone's cell phone. I bet the professor had to pay if he damaged it. Would it be possible for the student to sue?
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Old 09-18-2006, 11:57 AM   #2
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Oops, I guess it might be fake according to some of the comments. I still love it though and wish all professors would do that
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I feel like doing that sometimes...
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Old 09-18-2006, 01:27 PM   #4
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well hes a professor so money obviously isnt a prob for him, he could jus buy the kid anuther cell phone
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Do they make a shitload of money? Yes they do

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maybe the kid's mom was sick, or maybe his fiance is pregnant...maybe he needed to have his phone around to take a call.
Uh huh, and maybe he could've mentioned beforehand that that was the case, and that he'd go out in the hall to take the call when it came.



Yeah, I think this is probably staged; in real life you would get (at best) a reprimand from your dean or (at worst...and most likely if you weren't tenured) be fired--though probably not until the end of the semester--for damaging a student's property. Sad to say though, it is quite legal for a student to film me teaching without my consent, whereas if I filmed my students without their consent...bye bye.

I always mention on the first day of class (it's in the syllabus too) that students must keep their cell phone ringers off. I've never even bothered to mention that they also shouldn't answer them in class; that shouldn't even need to be said, and it's never happened in my classroom. Of course someone forgets to turn their ringer off every now and then; that's no biggie so long as they quickly turn it off when it rings, which so far they always have. I also always walk up and down the aisles while I lecture, and one of the reasons for that (besides the fact that I'm hyperactive and would wind up knocking the podium over if I tried to stand there...or freak people out by pacing agitatedly in circles if I attempted the casual strolling-about-the-front-of-the-room thing) is to keep students who use their laptops to take notes, from checking their emails or websurfing instead. If I do catch them doing this I don't smash their laptops of course; I just say "Go to the computer lab if you want to do that," much like I would ask them to leave if they were conversing during class. Technology has multiplied the ways to get distracted (and to distract others while you're at it).

I like how several of the comments advocate beating up the professor in response...
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I don't mind it that the professor did that. It disrupts the class. That's why it's illegal to use cell phones while driving in some states.
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I like how several of the comments advocate beating up the professor in response.
I know, well it is youtube after all Someone posted that the professor has other videos like this, maybe that's how way (if he actually is a professor) of making a comment about issues like cell phones in class and the behavior of some students. Or maybe it was just a class project or something to get on youtube, I don't know. The general outrage directed at the professor in some of the comments is surprising- but when you consider the average age of youtube viewers, maybe not. Not to say that everyone that age would condone a student behaving like that, or would advocate violence against the professor.

Fake or not, I think it does raise some interesting questions and arguments. When I was at a movie a few months back this twentysomething guy kept taking his cell phone out incessantly, and the light was so annoying. This guy a few rows back yelled out "put the damn cell phone away" and I couldn't help but want to stand up and cheer. It was great. One reason I was sad to find out this professor thing might be fake
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I don't mind it that the professor did that. It disrupts the class. That's why it's illegal to use cell phones while driving in some states.
The reason it's illegal in some states is because it's dangerous to drive while talking on a cell phone. Disrupting a class has a far less dangerous possible consequence than driving while talking on a cell phone.

Was the student rude? Yes, definitely. But that's his personal property. He should have been told to get out.
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Well acting on the presumption of a real scenario..yes it was his personal property, but the professor could feel so completely disrespected that human emotion takes over and anger gets the best of you. Sometimes when you feel completely disrespected you just want to lash out-at least it would be at a material thing and not directed at a person. Dignity and being respected is more important than property. I'm not saying the professor is right to smash the phone, but I understand it.
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Was the student rude? Yes, definitely. But that's his personal property. He should have been told to get out.
That's certainly what I would've told him to do.



Yeah, it is possible that this was a "real" professor in a "real" classroom, staging an "unexpected" incident with a couple students' help (one to answer his phone, one to film the whole thing), although I'm a little skeptical that a prof would stage such a thing for the purpose of getting on youtube. Professors do occasionally arrange "incidents" in advance to make some kind of point or another, usually with the aid of a grad student posing as an undergrad in a large class where their previous nonpresence wouldn't be noted. I remember my American Gov prof at Rutgers staging one such scene (though we didn't know it was staged at the time) where a "student" rocketed up in mid-lecture and started ranting All this stuff about democracy and equality is a pack of lies, we've got people starving in the streets, migrant farmworkers treated like slaves, poor people can't get decent lawyers decent schools etc. etc., blah blah blah, which the professor then "gallantly" attempted to manage by engaging the student in dialogue ("Well OK...let's talk about this...what are some of your solutions? What do you think democracy should look like?" etc.) It certainly made quite the discussion piece, but it was also completely lame and self-serving, and unsurprisingly didn't have the effect of electrifying classroom discussion. I would never bother with staging an incident for whatever reason.

I don't go out to the movies much because I have hearing problems that make the sound system seem agonizingly loud and the dialogue difficult to make out, but I too would be highly annoyed if someone were using their cell in a movie theater, and would probably seriously consider complaining to one of the ushers about it.
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The reason it's illegal in some states is because it's dangerous to drive while talking on a cell phone. Disrupting a class has a far less dangerous possible consequence than driving while talking on a cell phone.

Was the student rude? Yes, definitely. But that's his personal property. He should have been told to get out.
OK, it's his personal property. He should have been kicked out of the classroom.
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The professor should have stepped on it and broke it in a million pieces.
The jerk should have known better than to start talking on a cell phone duing a lecture. People pay a lot of money to get educated and their education should not be interupted by some idiot and a cell phone. He should know better.
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Most of my profs mentioned mobile devices in their syllabi. The most strict prof made it known that a ringing cell phone became his property for the rest of the class and the student received an absence for the day (more than two = a reduction of one full letter grade per absence). A lot of profs had similar consequences, like a 0 mark for the day.

I'm happy that prof did that, but yeah he could get into trouble, unless his syllabus stated that that's what would happen. If I were him, I would've taken the phone for the rest of class and then given the kid a lower mark or something.
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most good professors have a cellphone policy like livluv has described, which is much more resonable than throwing a tantrum during class
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Assume it wasn't fake.

He's completely out of line for destroying personal property. That's just as outrageous to me as the kid answering the phone. What's next? Dumping laptops on the floor because somebody is playing online poker?

Having said that, it's incredibly rude not to have your ringer off. Usually people are really embarrassed and turn the phone off right away. I've never seen anyone actually carrying on a conversation.
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It looks staged. The camera operator was a little overeager to point it at the "student with the phone."

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