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Old 04-18-2007, 12:09 PM   #1
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And the chaos continues...day of death in Baghdad

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2007/0...-violence.html

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At least 160 people were killed and dozens were wounded Wednesday in four bomb attacks in Baghdad, one of the deadliest waves of violence since the start of a joint U.S.-Iraqi security campaign in the capital two months ago.

In the deadliest of the attacks, a parked car bomb detonated in a crowd of workers at the Sadriyah market in a mostly Shia area of central Baghdad, killing at least 112 people and injuring 115, said Raad Muhsin, an official at Al-Kindi Hospital where the victims were taken.

A police official confirmed the toll, speaking to the Associated Press on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to release the information.

The bomb went off at about 4 p.m. local time, the time construction workers rebuilding shops in the market typically finish work each day. Many shops were destroyed in a previous bombing in February that killed 137 people.
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Old 04-18-2007, 12:22 PM   #2
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i'm sure all those 160 people were grateful for their liberation from Saddam Hussein, right up until the moment their bodies were shredded by explosions.
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Old 04-18-2007, 12:28 PM   #3
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but not grateful to be under bush. now they're dead. Before that, they were alive at least...
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It almost seems like you folks are actually celebrating this sort of news.

If that is ture - that is very poor judgement.
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It almost seems like you folks are actually celebrating this sort of news.

If that is ture - that is very poor judgement.
It almost seems like you say that in every Iraq thread, yet there's never any basis for what you say...

Talk about poor judgement.
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Old 04-18-2007, 02:16 PM   #6
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It almost seems like you folks are actually celebrating this sort of news.

If that is ture - that is very poor judgement.


i think that's what you need to think to retain any sort of moral superiority for supporting the people who fabricated perhaps the worst foreign policy mistake in American history that has resulted in hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqi citizens.

but continue to blame "the left" -- better than living with the decisions made by the leaders you've elected.
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The bomb went off at about 4 p.m. local time, the time construction workers rebuilding shops in the market typically finish work each day. Many shops were destroyed in a previous bombing in February that killed 137 people.
The same massacre repeated. How do people manage to keep going, it's heartbreaking.
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33 people die on a college campus and the nation comes to a halt. it's horrifying. we mourn each and every senseless loss and wonder about the lives that could have been. we all feel the tragedy, fully and rightfully so.

and this happens every day in Iraq.
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Old 04-18-2007, 02:57 PM   #9
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Actually, this is false. Baghdad has a population of....








It's quite simple. American lives are worth more than Iraqi lives.
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It almost seems like you folks are actually celebrating this sort of news.

If that is ture - that is very poor judgement.
I respect your loyalty

and you are in a very difficult situation.


The problem is that the only real plan the Administration and McCain have left is

A. failure in not an option


With that, bodies could just keep piling up for the next ten years.


Any objective analysis of the situation would have seen this outcome.

The Iraqis will have to resolved this themselves.
They will only stop killing each other when:

a. they want to
b. one side wins
c. the country breaks apart

A large U S presence only delays any of these resolutions and actually contributes to the chaos and killing.
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Just one story I read today..

Colin Kennedy kissed the casket of his brother Army Sergeant Adam Kennedy at Knollwood Memorial Park in Canton



by Brian MacQuarrie, Globe Staff | April 18, 2007

NORFOLK -- Honor, courage, determination, humor, friendship, and faith.

Those are the attributes that Army Sergeant Adam P. Kennedy represented to his brother Colin and six of the soldier's friends, who eulogized the Iraq casualty yesterday before several hundred mourners at St. Jude's Church.

"Adam was my best friend and also my hero," Colin Kennedy said from the pulpit. "He went out and lived his childhood dream."

When Colin Kennedy was finished and when all the tributes and consolations were over, Kennedy's relatives, friends, comrades, and neighbors stood at their pews and filled the overflowing church with the sound of a long, standing ovation.

Kennedy, 25, was killed April 8 when a roadside bomb ripped apart his Humvee about 25 miles southeast of Baghdad. A graduate of Xaverian Brothers High School in Westwood and Norwich University in Vermont, Kennedy had been in Iraq since October with the Fourth Brigade Combat Team of the 25th Infantry Division.

Kennedy is the 51st member of the armed forces from Massachusetts to be killed in Iraq. Thirteen from the state have died in Afghanistan.

A football linebacker at Xaverian Brothers and a star weight lifter, Kennedy graduated first in his class from Army basic training after he was rejected by the Marines because of concussions he suffered while playing football.

Kennedy oversaw the security detail for the colonel commanding his brigade. Although the unit faced daily danger, including mortar attacks and roadside explosions, Kennedy kept his thoughts on Iraq even when he visited home on leave in December, his brother said.

"He felt the need and responsibility to get back to his troops," Colin Kennedy said.

Monsignor Peter Conley, who was principal celebrant for the funeral Mass, reminded the gathering of that sacrifice.

"Adam's death comes from our human freedom, which can be a blessing or a curse," Conley said. "Let it not be whispered that Adam Kennedy died in vain.

"This is a man who kept his promise, and it was a promise made to us," Conley said of Kennedy. "He did it unto death."

The mourners included Governor Deval Patrick, members of the military, and officers from local and State Police. A broadcast feed from the service was relayed to the church basement, which was used to accommodate part of the crowd on a cold, wet morning.

Jim Kennedy, the victim's uncle, urged the congregation to remember the soldier's special qualities and incorporate them into everyday life. "If you're not moved and you're not inspired by that kind of thing, then I'm not sure you're really breathing," he said.

David Errico, a family friend from Cocoa, Fla., who had introduced Kennedy's parents to one another, recalled the "beautiful little boy" he had watched grow into "the man he turned out to be."

"We knew that Adam was doing what he loved, but that doesn't make it right and it doesn't make it fair," Errico said in a tribute that focused on snatches of happy memories accumulated over 25 years.

After the Mass, to the sounds of "America the Beautiful," a military honor guard rolled the casket to the doors of the church, where the coffin was draped with an American flag.

Then, as a color guard faced the church in the rain, the casket was carried to a waiting hearse while bagpipers played "The Minstrel Boy," an old Irish lament for a young soldier who dies in battle.

Kennedy was buried at Knollwood Memorial Park in Canton. The funeral procession was escorted by police and the Patriot Guard Riders, veterans on motorcycles who attend the funerals of all US service members killed in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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I respect your loyalty

and you are in a very difficult situation.


The problem is that the only real plan the Administration and McCain have left is

A. failure in not an option


With that, bodies could just keep piling up for the next ten years.


Any objective analysis of the situation would have seen this outcome.

The Iraqis will have to resolved this themselves.
They will only stop killing each other when:

a. they want to
b. one side wins
c. the country breaks apart

A large U S presence only delays any of these resolutions and actually contributes to the chaos and killing.


very good post. this is quite lucid. i shouldn't have been quite as angry at AEON's post. i apologize for that.
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I don't see what's wrong with getting angry at being accused of celebrating death in Iraq
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Old 04-18-2007, 04:07 PM   #14
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33 people die on a college campus and the nation comes to a halt. it's horrifying. we mourn each and every senseless loss and wonder about the lives that could have been. we all feel the tragedy, fully and rightfully so.

Please remember that V - Tech is the worse massacre on American soil

aside from the 9/11 attacks and Oklahoma City Bombing, of course




What is it children that falls from the sky ?
Tayi, taya, tayi, aye aye.
Mannah from Heaven from the most high,
Food from the father, tayi, taye aye.

We shall live again, we shall live again,
We shall live again, shake out the ghost dance.

Peace to your brother, give and take peace,
Tayi, taya, it leaves two feet
One foot extended, snake to the ground,
Wave up the Earth, one turn around.

We shall live again, we shall live again,
We shall live again, shake out the ghost dance.
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i think that's what you need to think to retain any sort of moral superiority for supporting the people who fabricated perhaps the worst foreign policy mistake in American history that has resulted in hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqi citizens.

but continue to blame "the left" -- better than living with the decisions made by the leaders you've elected.
I think that there are those who can stand in solidarity with Iraqis and oppose both the Bush agenda and the terrorists; sadly it seems that most fall into opposing one and being essentially silent on the other.
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