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Old 03-14-2008, 12:02 AM   #1
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"We have written off Britain to the Muslims," he says. "Come to America."

http://www.johannhari.com/archive/article.php?id=1264

Johann Hari's adventures on National Review cruise.
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At the risk of repeating myself once again...why did no one respond to this post??? Luckily I just happened upon it while searching the depths of Free Your Mind.
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I can't precisely remember why that specific thread didn't get any attention, Harry Vest.

I think it was an important day for the soap operas that particular day. Or maybe Britney Spears crashed a limo. Or crashed into a limo. Yeah, that was it.
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If I may interject, I've noticed two trends:

1) Threads that post too much get no replies.
2) Threads that don't post enough don't get them either.

A link and a vague sentence would fall under #2.

Here's a synopsis for people, if anyone is still interested (and, of course, the link is still above for anyone who wants to read it in its entirety):

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In memory of William Buckley...

Here is my article about the National Review cruise of 2006, in which I interviewed the late conservative guru

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I am travelling on a bright white cruise ship with two restaurants, five bars, a casino – and 500 readers of the National Review. Here, the Iraq war has been "an amazing success". Global warming is not happening. The solitary black person claims, "If the Ku Klux Klan supports equal rights, then God bless them." And I have nowhere to run.

From time to time, National Review – the bible of American conservatism – organises a cruise for its readers. I paid $1,200 to join them. The rules I imposed on myself were simple: If any of the conservative cruisers asked who I was, I answered honestly, telling them I was a journalist. Mostly, I just tried to blend in – and find out what American conservatives say when they think the rest of us aren't listening.

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A fracture-line in the lumbering certainty of American conservatism is opening right before my eyes. Following the break, Norman Podhoretz and William Buckley – two of the grand old men of the Grand Old Party – begin to feud. Podhoretz will not stop speaking – "I have lots of ex-friends on the left; it looks like I'm going to have some ex-friends on the right, too," he rants –and Buckley says to the chair, " Just take the mike, there's no other way." He says it with a smile, but with heavy eyes.

Podhoretz and Buckley now inhabit opposite poles of post-September 11 American conservatism, and they stare at wholly different Iraqs. Podhoretz is the Brooklyn-born, street-fighting kid who travelled through a long phase of left-liberalism to a pugilistic belief in America's power to redeem the world, one bomb at a time. Today, he is a bristling grey ball of aggression, here to declare that the Iraq war has been "an amazing success." He waves his fist and declaims: "There were WMD, and they were shipped to Syria ... This picture of a country in total chaos with no security is false. It has been a triumph. It couldn't have gone better." He wants more wars, and fast. He is "certain" Bush will bomb Iran, and "thank God" for that.

Buckley is an urbane old reactionary, drunk on doubts. He founded the National Review in 1955 – when conservatism was viewed in polite society as a mental affliction – and he has always been sceptical of appeals to "the people," preferring the eternal top-down certainties of Catholicism. He united with Podhoretz in mutual hatred of Godless Communism, but, slouching into his eighties, he possesses a world view that is ill-suited for the fight to bring democracy to the Muslim world. He was a ghostly presence on the cruise at first, appearing only briefly to shake a few hands. But now he has emerged, and he is fighting.
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