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Old 04-08-2008, 06:06 PM   #91
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the percentage will most likely go higher

Hillary noticed and made her statement this morning

let's not forget that W had a 90% plus rating at one time


100% agree. For politicans, we don't expect too much, do we?

One of the most hilarious comment I read in a Chinese student's forum in Germany, was "How long since Bill f**ked her last time?"

I guess human beings tend to show out the cruel side when it comes to politics.
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The girl who was carring the torch was sitting on her wheelchair, she's an athlete with only one leg. The guy in the white shirt is an athlete too, and he's blind.

I guess that's the peaceful protest that Dalai Lama was referring to.
this can't be what goebbles invisioned for the olympic torch relay
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Old 04-08-2008, 09:04 PM   #93
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A lot of the politicians calling for a boycott of the opening ceremony voted to invade Iraq - how hypocritical. Anything to deflect attention from Iraq I guess.
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I guess that's the peaceful protest that Dalai Lama was referring to.
The Dalai Lama did not instruct that protestor to do that. To suggest this is all the Lama's doing is extremely foolish and misguided.
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The Dalai Lama did not instruct that protestor to do that. To suggest this is all the Lama's doing is extremely foolish and misguided.
If he did not instruct protesters to do so, then this is a sign that things are getting out of his hand.
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Or a sign that the Chinese policy on Tibet is out of hand.
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Or a sign that the Chinese policy on Tibet is out of hand.
Only if the protesters are real tibetan people.

Some student witness said in quite a few European cities, people are payed to protest for pro-Tibet, for the Olympic torch grabbing, 300 euro.
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Only if the protesters are real tibetan people.
Um, no, not really. You do not have to be one of the people being persecuted to realize something is going wrong.
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I wonder how many protesters wear made in china shirts, use made in china car parts and own made in china electronics.


Boycot that kind of stuff and you can make a fist. It is a kind of hypocrite to attack a runner whit a flame and want to boycot a sports event and do politics over the backs off sportsmen.


When the Olympics got to peking, everyone knew about the human rights politics of China.


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I wonder how many protesters wear made in china shirts, use made in china car parts and own made in china electronics.
Good point, and what isn't these days? If the US is truly serious about the human rights issue shouldn't they boycott all of those products too? I guess we can't because we'd be left with almost nothing.
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I wonder how many protesters wear made in china shirts, use made in china car parts and own made in china electronics.

Found this picture on-line...



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If he did not instruct protesters to do so, then this is a sign that things are getting out of his hand.
I'm sorry but the Dalai Lama did NOT instruct anyone to use violence. He's been pleading for a peaceful protest and condemned the use of violence. Things are clearly getting out of hand and the media is stirring things up, too. It will get worse with time, I'm afraid. One can just pray that the violence will not take over and overshadow the real issues that this is all about.
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I'm sorry but the Dalai Lama did NOT instruct anyone to use violence. He's been pleading for a peaceful protest and condemned the use of violence. Things are clearly getting out of hand and the media is stirring things up, too. It will get worse with time, I'm afraid. One can just pray that the violence will not take over and overshadow the real issues that this is all about.
Why the first sentence sound like you are living with him?

I never said he instructed anyone to use violence, but he clearly didn't be able to stop the violence. And he didn't seriously criticize the guy who attacked the girl either.
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Should we have boycotted the 1936 Olympics in Berlin?

Perhaps no one would have ever heard of Jesse Owens or seen him show up Hitler's Master Race nonsense if we had. . .

To be honest I don't know enough about the issues to have a really strong opinion on this, but I do tend to think the Games should not be disrupted.
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Should we have boycotted the 1936 Olympics in Berlin?
which ironicly enough was the first olympiad to use the torch relay, which was originaly used as nazi propaganda to show the connection between hitler's third reich and the ancient greeks.

for irony
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