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Old 04-03-2008, 06:03 PM   #31
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Maybe. That would be interesting.
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Officials extinguish Olympic torch again

By Jerome Pugmire and Elaine Ganley, Associated Press Writers | April 7, 2008

PARIS --Security officials have extinguished the Olympic torch for a second time amid heavy protests during the torch relay in Paris.

Police have escorted the flame onto a bus, apparently to move it away from protesters.

The flame was being carried out of a Paris traffic tunnel by an athlete in a wheelchair when it was stopped because protesters booed and began chanting "Tibet."

It was the second time Monday that officials extinguished the torch amid protests. The procession was apparently being continued on board a bus.
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Protesters on the Golden Gate Bridge today on CNN. Or streaming video: http://www.cnn.com/video/live/live.html?stream=stream2
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It might hurt them if our $$$ and advertising are pulled out. China should be boycotted in every way for their terrible human and animal rights policies, the way they are beating stray animals to death with poles in the streets and of course Tibet. The sad thing is, a boycott would hurt the athletes more than it would hurt China. We can make a political statement without keeping those young atheles from their chance of a lifetime that may not come again.
Well, I think it's up to the athletes to decide what they wanted to do. And they should know that whatever they decide (yes or not), it would come with a cost.

What interesting is that people talks openly about culture genocide, however, it's Chinese culture actually made the human right and animal right condition as it is. Just like South Korean people crazy about dog meat, Chinese people, especially people live not so far away from Korea, include the province I came from, shares the same fever.

If Japan is allow to hunt extinct whale species in the name of culture protection and get away with it, why not China?

It's interesting that how many people shout free tibet has no idea what tibet was and what tibet is now. But the most interesting part is that Dalai Lama was on CIA's payroll, and young kids selected from Tibetan royal families were also trained by CIA with military skills. If I was an American citizen, I'd definitely want an explaination about WHY my tax money was used that way.
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It's interesting that how many people shout free tibet has no idea what tibet was and what tibet is now.
Are you actually working for the Chinese government?
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Are you actually working for the Chinese government?
No.

I work for juvenile Dibetes Research Foundation, a charity organization that "dedicate for finding a cure" for type 1 diabetes.

But your post has the attitude I got quite frequently. Anyone who ever say something good about China must be working for Chinese govnmt. LOL.
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It's not that you said something "good" about China. It's that you intimated that what China was doing to Tibet was a good thing.
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If Japan is allow to hunt extinct whale species in the name of culture protection and get away with it, why not China?
First of all, there is a lot of international controversy on Japan's continued whale hunting.

Secondly, are you seriously comparing the hunting of whales with the mistreatment, marginalization and even killing of Tibetans?
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But the most interesting part is that Dalai Lama was on CIA's payroll, and young kids selected from Tibetan royal families were also trained by CIA with military skills. If I was an American citizen, I'd definitely want an explaination about WHY my tax money was used that way.
That ended 35 years ago when US-China relations were normalized, so it's hardly likely to be on most Americans' priority lists at the moment.
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Well, I think it's up to the athletes to decide what they wanted to do. And they should know that whatever they decide (yes or not), it would come with a cost.

What interesting is that people talks openly about culture genocide, however, it's Chinese culture actually made the human right and animal right condition as it is. Just like South Korean people crazy about dog meat, Chinese people, especially people live not so far away from Korea, include the province I came from, shares the same fever.

If Japan is allow to hunt extinct whale species in the name of culture protection and get away with it, why not China?

It's interesting that how many people shout free tibet has no idea what tibet was and what tibet is now. But the most interesting part is that Dalai Lama was on CIA's payroll, and young kids selected from Tibetan royal families were also trained by CIA with military skills. If I was an American citizen, I'd definitely want an explaination about WHY my tax money was used that way.

Thanks for posting.



I think Olympic boycotts are wrong.

The games should be a time that politics are set aside.
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It's not that you said something "good" about China. It's that you intimated that what China was doing to Tibet was a good thing.
I never said it WAS good. I can't speak for Tibetan people because I'm not a Tibetan. I only speak for myself, and I don't like the policies that Chinese government has on Tibet.

If I was born in Tibet, I wouldn't have to pay tuition fee which is two times higher than the local students to do my higher education overseas.

The province I was born was a huge tax source, however, the money we payed didn't used on us, but go staight to Tibet. The muslim temple and christian churches in my province have to fund themselves, but the temples and religious activities in Tibet could get fund from the government as long as it was registered.

to yolland:

The CIA activity was stopped, but the policy never change. See Taiwan?

Personally I just think politics are just like kid's game, two 7-yr old boys fighting on the backstreet.

Speaking about the Olympics, I think the Chinese governmt now have a very big pressure, from it's own people. People now considering drop it, if it has to come with a price of lose Tibet.

The republic of China government was overthrown by Chinese people now ended up in Taiwan becasue the leader was far too friendly to the US specialists and international political consultants, and as a reasult China lost 3 provinces in the North at the begining of the WWII. The current Government would be overthrow immediately if anything similar ever happen again.
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I never said it WAS good. I can't speak for Tibetan people because I'm not a Tibetan. I only speak for myself, and I don't like the policies that Chinese government has on Tibet.

If I was born in Tibet, I wouldn't have to pay tuition fee which is two times higher than the local students to do my higher education overseas.

The province I was born was a huge tax source, however, the money we payed didn't used on us, but go staight to Tibet. The muslim temple and christian churches in my province have to fund themselves, but the temples and religious activities in Tibet could get fund from the government as long as it was registered.

Ahhhh. You've explained so much right here.

Nothing like "free" tuition to justify destroying an entire culture, wiping it from the face of the earth.
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Ahhhh. You've explained so much right here.

Nothing like "free" tuition to justify destroying an entire culture, wiping it from the face of the earth.
I don't know where you point is come from.

Do you mean that Australia shouldn't provide education to Chinese kids so they won't wipe Chinese culture away from the Chinese society living in Australia?
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I don't know where you point is come from.

Do you mean that Australia shouldn't provide education to Chinese kids so they won't wipe Chinese culture away from the Chinese society living in Australia?
What the hell? You were talking about how money goes to Tibet and how they don't have to pay tuition.
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What the hell? You were talking about how money goes to Tibet and how they don't have to pay tuition.
The free ed is called compulsory education. Don't you have it in your country?

I was talking about higher-ed only. Tibetan kids got profit of having lower entry requirement because Chinese is not their mother language, since their compulsory education was run in Tibetan. But we are both Chinese citizen, and the uni's are using my money, so why they got the profit not me? That's what I don't happy about.

I don't think one shoud just got the entry profit because your mother language is not the official language of the country. My mother language is not English, and I have to take English test to qualify the Uni entry in OZ. It's just not fair back home. I personally believe that the Chinese government should run a similar test system as the one we have in Australia, for all kids who don't have Chinese as their mother langauge, as part of the uni requirement.
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