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Old 08-06-2004, 03:13 PM   #16
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I have to admit that I've done that before too verte, I just voted for somebody because they were democrat. However, I have to say that I learned my lesson and I have voted Republican a few times since then..hehehehe.
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Old 08-06-2004, 03:18 PM   #17
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Thanks Leeloo, that was an interesting story, i didn't know that!



Let's all enjoy the shade of our FYM-Olive Tree, and celebrate the things that unite us.
And in our next dispute on FYM let us all remember not to brake off an olive branch on purpose
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Old 08-06-2004, 03:36 PM   #18
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Let's all enjoy the shade of our FYM-Olive Tree, and celebrate the things that unite us.
And in our next dispute on FYM let us all remember not to brake off an olive branch on purpose
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Old 08-06-2004, 03:40 PM   #19
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Thank you Love Town It's been so long since anyone had anything but scorn for me, this means a lot
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Old 08-06-2004, 04:05 PM   #20
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I also want to say that even before I saw this I had decided I was not going to post in any more political threads. I feel like my opinion is not welcome here and makes people mad and drags the forum down. I have been too outspoken but not ashamed of my views. But when it reaches a point where all that happens is either I get into a fight or I am dismissed as stupid, it's not even entertaining anymore. Thank you again Love Town for being so thoughtful and I want you to know you never did anything I consider to be unkind.
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Old 08-06-2004, 04:15 PM   #21
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I'm not sure if i shared your view once yet - and i remember a hot debate in the war forum , but that does not mean that you're not welcome here
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I also want to say that even before I saw this I had decided I was not going to post in any more political threads. I feel like my opinion is not welcome here and makes people mad and drags the forum down. I have been too outspoken but not ashamed of my views. But when it reaches a point where all that happens is either I get into a fight or I am dismissed as stupid, it's not even entertaining anymore.
I was afraid you might be feeling like this. You certainly were taking a lot of heat for your views and I felt it might come to the point where you stopped posting.

I don't want to see you leave. If only people who have similar views post here this forum will become VERY boring. Maybe we all just need to take a step back for a bit over the election. That seems to be the issue tearing us all apart. Please think about it Bluberry, take some time if you need it, but please come back. I know you would be missed terribly if you never posted here again
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Old 08-06-2004, 04:21 PM   #23
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Thank you for seeing what I was going through, some of the others would have just said no one did anything to me It reached its breaking point yesterday when I realized no one even took me seriously and I was becoming a joke on top of being hated for my views. I really really don't want to talk about the election anymore, maybe some other things sometime. Thank you for seeing what was happening on this forum, and caring enough to say something
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Old 08-06-2004, 04:21 PM   #24
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Agreed ^^^^-don't be afraid to come here-your views are as welcome here as anybody else's is, BluberryPoptart. .

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I don't think either Bush or Kerry mean to hurt the country. They are both honestly trying to do what they think is right. No one in FYM wants to hurt the country. We all want what's best for the country. We just don't agree on what's good and what's not good for it all of the time. That's OK.
I can go with that. .

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I once made a terrible mistake in an election. I voted for someone in a local election because he was a Democrat. After the election, which he lost, I found out that he had been involved in political dirty tricks against his Republican opponent. I was horrified and really angry with myself for voting for the hole. Needless to say I didn't give a that he'd lost. I'll never do this again.
Aw, verte . It's okay. People make mistakes like that all the time-that's how you learn things, right? That's a shame that the guy you voted for turned out to be such a creep. From your post, it sounds like his opponent took the high road and didn't stoop to that kind of thing, and for that, I give the opponent some kudos .

Also, I, too, extend thanks for the info on the olive branch-it's always neat to hear where these kinds of things originated from. May those branches continue to grow.

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Old 08-06-2004, 04:30 PM   #25
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I really really don't want to talk about the election anymore, maybe some other things sometime. Thank you for seeing what was happening on this forum, and caring enough to say something
I know what you mean about the election. I found myself starting to get mean about it and that is when my eyes started to open to how you might be feeling. I for one, read every single one of your posts and I did take them seriously. Unfortunately sometimes they degraded into being just short of name calling contests. I KNOW that is not what you intended them to be when you started them. You just wanted to state your views on things and I admire that. It can't be easy for you or the other more conservative members of this site to express your thoughts to all of us more liberal types. I think you showed a lot of bravery and dedication to your beliefs. I really admire that. Don't be a stranger here ok? I'm sure there are other very interesting topics you are passionate about and I would love to have the chance to discuss them with you!
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Thanks again Love Town, you too Klaus and Angela If I do say so myself, it was one of the bravest things I've ever done stating the views I have in a hornet's nest of those who hate everything I stand for. I do believe there are others who feel the same as me who do not post their true feelings because they do not want to deal with being bashed and I can understand that.
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I can understand it too Bluberry. Hopefully if we all work together to keep our more negative sides in check we can make FYM a friendly place where everybody feels they can state their views.

I ask all FYMers to do just ONE thing. If you come across a post and it makes you mad and you are tempted to say something mean spirited please take a deep breath, count to 10 and think about the situation a bit BEFORE you post.

And yep, I have to remember to do this myself!!
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Oh, I really don't want anyone to quit FYM. Bluberry Poptart, you're as entitled to your views as anyone else. I think in general this is a pretty intense election campaign, for reasons beyond our control. Maybe it's because it's the first post-9/11 campaign and there is more anxiety out there. I honestly don't give a that not everyone has my point of view, and FYM would be boring as hell if we all had the same ideas. If it were boring as hell I'd definitely *quit*. I mean, heck, even though I'm basically a liberal, I have some ideas that would commonly be classified as conservative. I'm a practicing Catholic, and I'm really into Mary and the saints. This is considered conservative in the Catholic Church. I love going to the Shrine of Our Lady of Fatima on the grounds of my church, and also wearing saints' medals and collecting holy cards. One of the paintings I sold at our recent show was of St. Elizabeth of Hungary, a patron saint of charities. I work for a charity. So, I don't really fit into anyone's idealogical box. I'm just me. Also I am the only Democrat in my medieval re-enactment society branch. Everyone else is Republican, but we're all friends. Anyway, we used to have an unwritten agreement on a figure skating discussion bb I was a member of. It was during the Olympics and there was a ton of flaming going on. It was horrible! I quit it got so unpleasant. Some new moderator saved the situation by implementing a voluntary rule that said if a post really pissed us off, we should wait 24 hours before answering. I agreed to come back to the bb and see if it worked. It did. There were two total holes who had to be expelled because all they ever did was personally insult other members. But everyone else got together, agreed to try the rule, and it worked. That was important. We didn't start liking the same skaters, but we did agree not to flame each other.
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I was interested to find out recently where the term 'olive branch' comes from. In ancient times in the middle east, when there were wars, the olive trees were usually trampled in battle or broken off on purpose to hurt the livelihood of the enemy. So they never got to grow very big. When there was time between wars for the trees to grow long branches, it became a way to measure peace. So an olive branch became a symbol of peace
The term also comes from the biblical Noah's Ark story. When the earth was flooded and there was no land in sight, god ordered Noah to sent the dove away from the ark. When the dove finally returned, it held an olive branch in its beak (after several times when she returned "empty handed"). It was a sign that the flood would come to an end soon because that meant that the water level was down (as you said, the olive tree isn't tall).
Because of that, the image of a dove with an olive's branch in its beak symbolizes hope and peace.
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I've been coming here a lot lately, where I haven't so much in the past, but I've found myself getting a little burnt out from coming here/watching the news channels and reading the papers. That said, I have really enjoyed reading the posts, though I might not agree with all of them, and consider myself better informed than I was just a few weeks ago.

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