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Old 03-11-2008, 11:37 AM   #121
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Wait... why did you not first ask the question of whether the puppy was alive? I mean, as opposed to talking out of our ass for seven pages and saying how evil those soldiers are?
OK so we're still talking out of our asses. Thanks.
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Old 03-11-2008, 11:44 AM   #122
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Unico, I would argue that you are avoiding the question.

Can you explain why the puppy does not move at all, and why the audio of its squealing does not match the video of it flying through the air away from the camera?

CNN reports lots of bullshit stories, and this is just another one, in my opinion (surely, we don't need to write "in my opinion" after every comment made here, do we?)
What question did you ask me before posting a question in the same post where you accused me of avoiding a question?

No I can't explain anything. But, like I said, let's talk about some sources here. All the speculation and hearsay is just that. Sorry I don't hold the same film credentials as you, but if you wanna talk technicalities, then I admit I can't really make an assessment on the video's validity one way or the other. It is a very interesting angle you made about this topic. I just wish you'd post some sort of source to back it up.

Have you been to Wheta Hann?
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Aha! Good try, indra. Attempt to insult the person while avoiding the argument. You lose.

I have it on good authority that those soldiers murdered that poor puppy by beating and strangling it first, then tossing it off the cliff.

Hope that satisfies
And you aren't insulting people? Bullshit.

I asked you a question -- if the puppy was dead when it was picked up and thrown, how did it die? Since you know so much about this incident I was sure you would know the answer to that very simple question.
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Old 03-11-2008, 12:28 PM   #124
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Obviously they saw an Iraqi murder the poor defenseless puppy and figured "why not have a little fun with the sensitive dog-loving doves back home".
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Old 03-11-2008, 12:32 PM   #125
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They had to kill it...it knew too much.
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honeslty, does it have to be "american soldiers throw living puppy off cliff?" as if all american soldiers are doing this? couldn't it just have been "fucking douchebag throws puppy off cliff?"
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honeslty, does it have to be "american soldiers throw living puppy off cliff?" as if all american soldiers are doing this? couldn't it just have been "fucking douchebag throws puppy off cliff?"
perhaps it was, and then the title was censored?
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Whether it was dead or alive when thrown off the cliff is irrelevant. It was still a sick thing to do.

However, I will give them credit for one thing: they sure know how to attract attention to themselves. Nothing like animal abuse to make you the center of attention, good or bad.
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Old 03-11-2008, 12:47 PM   #129
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Whether it was dead or alive when thrown off the cliff is irrelevant. It was still a sick thing to do.



I don't think the term "douchebag" has been censored here. Yet.
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honeslty, does it have to be "american soldiers throw living puppy off cliff?" as if all american soldiers are doing this? couldn't it just have been "fucking douchebag throws puppy off cliff?"
Ya rly. Using a headline like the one above, they might as well have just said "LOOK, EVERYONE! OUR SOLDIERS ARE A BUNCH OF DOUCHEBAGS WHO EAT PUPPIES! READ ME, DAMMIT!"
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American soldier (in this case) throws living puppy (or maybe dead, whoever knows) off cliff

Better title?
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They had to kill it...it knew too much.
it didn't survive the

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I don't think the term "douchebag" has been censored here. Yet.
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That made me so mad and upset! There is no excuse! Other soldiers are stressed too but some of them have rescued dogs, taken care of them and even brought them home. This guy is sick.

Look here's his myspace. The first one is really him the others are knockoffs by people who hate him:

http://searchservice.myspace.com/ind...e=david+motari
Did you guys read these links? He even admits to killing the pup and says it 'would have died anyway'. He also says that 'we' 'usually just shoot them but I thought I'd get creative." This is from his Mahalo page that is posted on the fake myspace but the Mahalo page was his. (BTW it's kinda scary too how the people who made the fake one put a bullet in his head and said 'somebody do it')

To those of you who think it was already dead: Have you been watching too much "weekend at bernie's?" Dead bodies are not really floppy and poseable. I don't know if you guys have ever seen a real dead puppy but sadly I have They go very stiff in a short period of time, and they usually don't die and go rigor mortis in a convenient lifelike position. That puppy is not stiff. He may be sick, or just really trusting, poor little thing. A vet who observed the video said he saw the puppy flinch and the yelps were 'a puppy in distress' not a human making fake noises.

Think about this, even if it was already dead, how did he die? Did they kill it another way? If you come upon a long dead puppy it would be stiff and/or partially collapsed from rotting in the sun. Ever see a run over possum? Come on ppl.

See his admisssion on his own bebo page:

http://www.tosspuppy.com/
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Well the USMC has already condemned the video and launched their own investigation. It'd be interesting to see what conclusions they come to. Something about this that I find very scary is how revealing the internet can be. It seems as though almost immediately after the video was leaked people on the internet tracked this guy down. I've read that his family was even threatened. What the hell is the point in all that? Fighting stupidity with stupidity doesn't get anybody anywhere. I wish the stories of the heroic soldiers who have worked with children, pets, etc. got as much publicity. I agree that there should be less focus on this guy's occupation as I personally think it is irrelevant. This oaf has probably done the same sort of things on his homeland.
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