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Old 04-21-2002, 08:39 AM   #46
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Well...our poor American media showed the Govenor General of Canada visiting the wounded Canadians in the hospital in Germany. I was surprised! I didn't think we would hear any more about it...

We are not hearing about Canadian anger or people voicing opinions to pull out...I found that out from the BBC.

Oddly enough...that was one of Osama's critiques of the US.... he said a a few die and they pull out....that they were not willing to sacrifice their people for a cause...
that was just a thought that came to my mind...please don't read anything else into it...

Bush should have apologized more...send telegrams (or maybe he has...I don't know) I don't think he said a whole lot when that Australian peacekeeper was killed until that formal occaison at the White House...he made mention of it in his speech. Maybe he is waiting for another 'formal occaison' when the tv cameras and the press will be there...

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Old 04-21-2002, 09:14 AM   #47
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Juan don't you realise that:

1. Only 8/10 interferencers will know youre kidding

2. Only about 1/3 of them will find the joke funny

3. 10/10 will find it TASTELESS.

Where in that reply did i make light of war? I was trying to point out that i thought it was a dumb thing to say, sorry u didnt quite catch that...I was quite serious in giving Swallow the thumbs down. As for my other posts, where are the jokes?

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Old 04-21-2002, 09:29 AM   #48
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Old 04-21-2002, 09:37 AM   #49
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Calm down Z Edge, I wasn't serious. I'm sorry they died but I'm not the one that killed them.
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Old 04-21-2002, 11:19 AM   #50
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80s, did u even read my replies? I wasnt making any joke...
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not funny swallow.
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Old 04-21-2002, 12:25 PM   #52
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Ok people, I don't know if some of you are just a little too reply-happy or what, but it's painfully obvious that brettig was quite CLEARLY not making fun or making light here. Indeed, as much as I may enjoy Mr. Swallow's humour at various times in the forum, this instance was uncalled for and brettig's response was pretty much exactly what I was thinking. If you're unable to see that he's reprimanding Juan, then perhaps you should take a deep breath, go back and reread, and then take his statement at face value.
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Old 04-21-2002, 02:35 PM   #53
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Well since i started this thread then didnt get back till there was 50 replies i'm kinda behind.

I really dont think canada should pull out it was just a thought. I plead for any non-canadian not to take gaberilvox's opinion as the majority in Canada. I would say Canada is pissed. I'm sure any of you could see why. 4 of our men were killed by the people that asked us to come with them. I know this wasnt intentional but it still did happen.

I think that is really making people around the country mad is that Bush made three public appearence the day after this happened he did not say one thing publicly. He did not say sorry to the Canadian public or the families. The only time he said anything is when a reporter yelled to him, "anything to say about the 4 canadians?'
Bush responded with "i talked to the prime minister this morning"

I ask you americans only one question.

If a Canadian pilot(haha the funny thing is we probably dont have 500 puind bombs) dropped a 500 pund bomb onto 30 Americans, killed 4, injured 8, this after base said not to fire. Would your view still be the same? I would say most likely. But the thing that really gets me is that if it was a Americans killed by Canadians our Prime Minister would have had a huge press confrence express his sorrow and his commitment to get to the bottom of this.

Americans always ask why everyone hates them. Well i guess your answer could be arrogance. That is what this is.

And to those people that said we dont need the US you are joking yourselves. Without them we are nothing!

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Old 04-21-2002, 02:57 PM   #54
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I'm not here to debate this and that. But I will say. I feel for the canadians on this one.America and Canada are allies, this shouldn't be about Americans this or Canadian that, it was a tragedy common to both of us.
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And to those people that said we dont need the US you are joking yourselves. Without them we are nothing!
I don't follow that remark at all well.

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I don't follow that remark at all well.

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Canada is completely dependent on so much of what the US is. gabrielvox said earlier:

There are a few very good reasons why Canada is not a target for terrorism. Not that the 'reasons' the terrorists targeted the WTC could even remotely be considered valid. But when one involves themselves (some view it as an imposition) in other's affairs as much as the US historically has, one leaves themselves open to the extremist who doesn't appreciate your help, get what Im saying?


But what he fails to see is that terrorist like OBL hate Canada just the same. Canada has been refered to by many terrorist as the little devil, with the US being the Big Devil. Some Canadians live in some sort of fantasy world that without the US we could survive just fine. They are terribly mistaken. Most of all Canadian exports go to the US. The US would jump to our defense anythime.

I am angry how Bush has handled this situation or how he has'nt handled it, but i will say without the US Canada is not much of anything. Many love to hate the US, including myself at times, but its more of a jealuosy but not to that degree. This accident is terrible and there are questions to be answered but for neighbours we sure dont know when to be there for eachother sometimes.



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Canada is completely dependent on so much of what the US is. gabrielvox said earlier:

There are a few very good reasons why Canada is not a target for terrorism. Not that the 'reasons' the terrorists targeted the WTC could even remotely be considered valid. But when one involves themselves (some view it as an imposition) in other's affairs as much as the US historically has, one leaves themselves open to the extremist who doesn't appreciate your help, get what Im saying?


But what he fails to see is that terrorist like OBL hate Canada just the same. Canada has been refered to by many terrorist as the little devil, with the US being the Big Devil. Some Canadians live in some sort of fantasy world that without the US we could survive just fine. They are terribly mistaken. Most of all Canadian exports go to the US. The US would jump to our defense anythime.

I am angry how Bush has handled this situation or how he has'nt handled it, but i will say without the US Canada is not much of anything. Many love to hate the US, including myself at times, but its more of a jealuosy but not to that degree. This accident is terrible and there are questions to be answered but for neighbours we sure dont know when to be there for eachother sometimes.
Ok. As long as you're not referring to the rest of the world, I agree with your statement.

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Bonoman, I appreciate your comments and your overall maturity to this issue.

I still have not heard anything about this on the news, yet I haven't watched it either.

I assume you wish there would be a statement or apology made by Bush regarding this incident.

Once again, my condolences on this horrible incident.
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Old 04-21-2002, 07:30 PM   #59
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Yeah guys I can see now that I overreacted earlier.

My apologies Brettig and Swallow!
It's cool.
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