Al-Qaida warns Muslims: Time to get out of U.S.

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worldnetdaily.com said:
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Al-Qaida warns Muslims: Time to get out of U.S.
Afghan terror commander hints at big attack on N.Y., Washington
Posted: September 17, 2006

The new al-Qaida field commander in Afghanistan is calling for Muslims to leave the U.S. – particularly Washington and New York – in anticipation of a major terror attack to rival Sept. 11, according to an interview by a Pakistani journalist.

Abu Dawood told Hamid Mir, a reporter who has covered al-Qaida and met with Osama bin Laden, the attack is being coordinated by Adnan el-Shukrijumah and suggests it may involve some form of weapon of mass destruction smuggled across the Mexican border.

"Our brothers are ready to attack inside America. We will breach their security again," he is quoted as saying. "There is no timeframe for our attack inside America; we can do it any time."

As WND has previously reported, el-Shukrijumah is a trained nuclear technician and accomplished pilot who has been singled out by bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri to serve as the field commander for the next terrorist attack on U.S. soil.

The terrorist was last seen in Mexico, where, on Nov. 1, 2004, he allegedly hijacked a Piper PA Pawnee cropduster from Ejido Queretaro near Mexicali to transport a nuclear weapon and nuclear equipment into the U.S., according to Paul Williams, a former FBI consultant and author of The Dunces of Doomsday.

"He is an American and a friend of Muhammad Atta, who led 9/11 attacks five years ago," said Dawood. "We call him 'Jaffer al Tayyar' (Jafer the Pilot); he is very brave and intelligent. (President) Bush is aware that brother Adnan has smuggled deadly materials inside America from the Mexican border. Bush is silent about him, because he doesn’t want to panic his people. Sheikh Osama bin Laden has completed his cycle of warnings. You know, he is man of his words, he is not a politician; he always does what he says. If he said it many times that Americans will see new attacks, they will definitely see new attacks. He is a real mujahid. Americans will not win this war, which they have started against Muslims. Americans are the biggest supporters of the biggest terrorist in the world, which is Israel."

Dawood said he was currently conducting operations in Afghanistan under the leadership of the Taliban. He warned of a series of upcoming suicide bombings there directed against government and coalition forces during Ramadan.
He is also quoted as saying the next attack in America will not be conducted by people like Atta.

"We have a different plan for the next attack," he told Mir. "You will see. Americans will hardly find out any Muslim names, after the next attack. Most of our brothers are living in Western countries, with Jewish and Christian names, with passports of Western countries. This time, someone with the name of Mohamed Atta will not attack inside America, it would be some David, Richard or Peter."

He said there will be another audio message from bin Laden aired within the next two weeks.

Mir reportedly interviewed Dawood Sept. 12 at the tomb of Sultan Mehmud Ghaznawi on the outskirts of Kabul. Dawood and the al-Qaida leaders who accompanied him were clean-shaven and dressed as Western reporters. The al-Qaida commander had contacted Mir by cell phone to arrange the meeting.

"You have witnessed the brutality of the Israelis in the recent 34-day war against Lebanese civilians," said Dawood. "9/11 was a revenge of Palestinian children, killed by the U.S.-made weapons, supplied to Israel. The next attack on America would be a revenge of Lebanese children killed by U.S.-made cluster bombs. Bush and (British Prime Minister Tony) Blair are the Crusaders, and Muslim leaders, like (Pakistani President Pervez) Musharraf and (Afghani President Hamid) Karzai are their collaborators. We will teach a lesson to all of them."

El-Shukrijumah was born in Guyana Aug. 4, 1975 – the firstborn of Gulshair el-Shukrijumah, a 44-year-old radical Muslim cleric, and his 16-year-old wife. In 1985, Gulshair migrated to the United States, where he assumed duties as the imam of the Farouq Mosque in Brooklyn.

The mosque, located at 554 Atlantic Avenue in Brooklyn, has served as a hive for terrorist activities. It has raised millions for the jihad and has served as a recruiting station for al-Qaida. Many of the planners of the 1993 attack on the World Trade Center, including blind Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman, were prominent members of this notorious house of worship.

In 1995, the Shukrijumah family relocated to Miramar, Fla., where Gulshair became the spiritual leader of the radical Masjid al-Hijah Mosque, and where Adnan became friends with Jose Padilla, who planned to detonate a radiological bomb in midtown Manhattan; Mandhai Jokhan, who was convicted of attempting to blow up nuclear power plants in southern Florida; and a group of other home-grown terrorists.

Adnan Shukrijumah attended flight schools in Florida and Norman, Oklahoma, along with Mohammad Atta and the other 9/11 operatives, and he became a highly skilled commercial jet pilot, although he, like Atta and the other terrorists, never applied for a license with the Federal Aviation Commission.

In April 2001, Shukrijumah spent 10 days in Panama, where he reportedly met with al-Qaida officials to assist in the planning of 9/11. He also traveled to Trinidad and Guyana, where virulent al-Qaida cells have been established. The following month, he obtained an associate's degree in computer engineering from Broward Community College.

During this time, he managed to get passports from Guyana, Trinidad, Saudi Arabia, Canada and the United States, according to Williams. He also began to adopt a number of aliases, including Abu Arifi, Jafar al-Tayyar, Jaafar At Yayyar, Ja'far al-Tayar, and Mohammed Sher Mohammed Khan (the name that appeared on his official FBI file). He traveled to Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, where he met with Ramzi Binalshibh, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, and other members of the al-Qaida high command. He also spent considerable time within al-Qaida camps in Afghanistan, where he received training in explosives and special operations.

Following 9/11, el-Shukrijumah was reportedly singled out by bin Laden and al-Zawahiri to spearhead the next great attack on America. One plan was for a nuclear attack that would take place simultaneously in seven U.S. cities, leaving millions dead and the richest and most powerful nation on earth in ashes.

"Muslims should leave America," said Dawood. "We cannot stop our attack just because of the American Muslims; they must realize that American forces are killing innocent Muslims in Afghanistan and Iraq; we have the right to respond back, in the same manner, in the enemy's homeland. The American Muslims are like a human shield for our enemy; they must leave New York and Washington."

Mir, the journalist, has reported previously that al-Qaida has smuggled nuclear weapons and uranium into the U.S.
"I am saying that Muslims must leave America, but we can attack America anytime," he said. "Our cycle of warnings has been completed, now we have fresh edicts from some prominent Muslim scholars to destroy our enemy, this is our defending of Jihad; the enemy has entered in our homes and we have the right to enter in their homes, they are killing us, we will kill them."
 
A note about the author:

Hamid Mir, the author of the interview, is a top Pakistani reporter, head of the Geo TV Bureau in Islamabad. He has won a world-wide acclaim for his interviews with Osama bin Laden and Dr. Ayman al-Zawahiri, before and following 9/11. His new book about OBL is due to appear in Britain, later this year.
 
AEON said:
A note about the author:

Hamid Mir, the author of the interview, is a top Pakistani reporter, head of the Geo TV Bureau in Islamabad. He has won a world-wide acclaim for his interviews with Osama bin Laden and Dr. Ayman al-Zawahiri, before and following 9/11. His new book about OBL is due to appear in Britain, later this year.



World Net Daily?

:eyebrow:
 
Yes - I have seen it around the web on various sites and we were "briefed" about it during our last drill. The source is considered credible, but the quotes could be seen as an attempt to scare rather than an actual threat.

I'm not sure how serious I take this particular threat, but it does raise some good points worth discussing.

1) our borders are not secure - can they ever be secure?
2) Al Queda would NOT HESITATE to set off a nuke if they had one
3) How would the US/World respond if Washington DC and NYC were obliterated? Total War? Invasion of Middle East? Nuclear strikes? "No War" Protests on the Golden Gate Bridge?
 
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AEON said:

1) our borders are not secure - can they ever be secure?

No, you want to live behind a "Berlin Wall"?

AEON said:

2) Al Queda would NOT HESITATE to set off a nuke if they had one

Not sure about this, I would think they know that would be the end...

AEON said:

3) How would the US/World respond if Washington DC and NYC were obilterated? Total War? Invasion of Middle East? Nuclear strikes?

Oblitereated?:eyebrow:

What do you mean by "total war" are we in a "somewhat war" now?

Yes, I believe it probably mean nuclear stikes.

AEON said:

"No War" Protests on the Golden Gate Bridge?

How many war protests were there after 9/11? Maybe you'll realize that was a pretty ridiculous question...
 
AEON said:
1) our borders are not secure - can they ever be secure?
2) Al Queda would NOT HESITATE to set off a nuke if they had one
3) How would the US/World respond if Washington DC and NYC were obilterated? Total War? Invasion of Middle East? Nuclear strikes? "No War" Protests on the Golden Gate Bridge?

Maybe I'm just too jaded but the timing of the new threats is just so convenient for the November elections...as are the suddenly plummeting oil prices.

1) No, the borders will never be secure unless you'd like to revive the iron curtain way of life.

2) They'd wait for the right timing...but then at least there would be no hesitation or resistence to the US leveling Iran.

3) If the economy collapses because of the next attack, total world war, if it doesn't, Iran and Syria will be wiped out.
 
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MrsSpringsteen said:
I believe that story has been all over the net, not just on World News Daily. I saw it on cable news too, not sure if it was CNN.



does anyone have any other sources?

i really can't trust WDN.
 
just did a quick Google, and came up with this:

[q]American Muslims Told to Leave Major U.S. Cities
Wednesday, November 05, 2003

By Catherine Donaldson-Evans

E-MAIL STORY RESPOND TO EDITOR PRINTER FRIENDLY VERSION
An Al Qaeda (search) Web site is running a warning issued to Muslims to leave Washington, D.C., New York City and Los Angeles because of implied imminent terrorist attacks, according to the Middle East Media Research Institute.

Titled "A Warning to Muslims in America," the directive was issued by the previously unknown "Islamic Bayan Movement" and first ran on the Global Islamic Media Web site on Monday, according to MEMRI, which translated the communiqué.

It has since been published on the Al Qaeda-run site Al Faroq (search), a MEMRI release said. The Global Islamic Media site has published several messages from Jihad groups around the world in recent months.

As of Tuesday, there had been no increase in the Pentagon's yellow terror alert status. Yellow represents an "elevated" status on the five-point chart.

"Our Muslim brothers in America, we ask you to immediately leave the following cities: Washington, D.C., New York, and Los Angeles," reads the communiqué, which frequently quotes the Quran.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,102179,00.html[/q]



2003. natch.
 
Irvine - this isn't the same story. Maybe the same title, but the story is different.
 
BonoVoxSupastar said:


No, you want to live behind a "Berlin Wall"?



My history can be a bit hazy - but wasn't the Berlin Wall built to keep people from escaping their own country?
 
BonoVoxSupastar said:


Well then I ask you how other way do you expect to have secured borders?

I agree with the concept of a "wall" (be it electronic, concrete, drone surveillance…etc) - I just don't see how a wall on the Mexican border is equal to the Berlin Wall.

Mexican Wall – KEEP OUT terrorists, illegal immigrants, drug runners
Berlin Wall – KEEP IN anyone with the desire to leave an oppressive totalitarian regime
 
AEON said:


I agree with the concept of a "wall" (be it electronic, concrete, drone surveillance…etc) - I just don't see how a wall on the Mexican border is equal to the Berlin Wall.

Mexican Wall – KEEP OUT terrorists, illegal immigrants, drug runners
Berlin Wall – KEEP IN anyone with the desire to leave an oppressive totalitarian regime

Oh I love how secure borders only means the Mexican border. How typical...:|

Who do you think would build that wall?

Do you think terrorists, illegal immigrants and drugs only come into this country by crossing illegally? This is my point. Completely secured borders are going to make a difference in trade and travel. Think about it...
 
BonoVoxSupastar said:


Oh I love how secure borders only means the Mexican border. How typical...:|

Mexico first, then Canada. Both should be secured in the long run.

BonoVoxSupastar said:

Who do you think would build that wall?

It will take a lot of time and resources, I admit. But it seems to be worth it. In some of the more remote regions of the border, drones and other surveillance measures can be used to help Border Patrol/National Guard/Homeland Security pinpoint those crossing the border illegally. That would be cheaper than an actual, physical wall.

BonoVoxSupastar said:
Do you think terrorists, illegal immigrants and drugs only come into this country by crossing illegally?

Of course not. Legal entry should also be tightened.

BonoVoxSupastar said:

This is my point. Completely secured borders are going to make a difference in trade and travel. Think about it...

I have no idea what you are saying here. Please explain.
 
do you have any more sources for these potentially catastrophic attacks on NYC and DC?

i live in DC. i ride Metro every single day.
 
Irvine511 said:
do you have any more sources for these potentially catastrophic attacks on NYC and DC?

i live in DC. i ride Metro every single day.

The only other sources I have do not come from the press. Like I said, I have been "briefed" about it because I'm an officer in the National Guard and we will have to respond quickly to prevent America from falling into chaos if something like this happens.

I do not think that there is enough information here to change your daily routine. However, I think it would be "smart" to have some sort of emergency plan for you and your loved ones (whether it be a nuclear blast, hurricane, earthquake, another 9-11 typr attack...etc).
 
I love living next to the most paranoid country on the planet.

Missile defence system, building walls, fighting them over there so we don't fight them here, alert status red, blah, blah, blah There are so many holes in the security of democracy, it's impossible to plug all of them. Vigilance and security measures are one thing, duct tape as a way to protect oneself is another. The only way is to have a closed society with curfews and cameras mounted everywhere, kinda like North Korea, they are pretty safe aren't they? Maybe the US should legislate an ID card system like in the movies, "Papers please", no papers? off to jail.


In the meantime, the rest of the world including China and India are going to pass you by while you shore up your defenses and neglect your education, infrastructure and social needs. Yep, Al Qaeda is going to bankrupt the US on threats alone. Hopefully, Canada won't get sucked into your vortex. Although, a tougher border crossing will only lead to inevitably longer crossings which could impact manufacturing and delivery times of products in both countries leading to a slowdown in the economies of both nations. A likely side effect will be less cross border travel in general which will impact the tourism industry on both sides of the border. But hey, it's good for people to see their own countries and spend money at home instead of abroad.

Perhaps if the employers in the US stopped hiring these so-called illegal immigrants and providing them with an incentive for coming to the US, they would stop coming. Why go somewhere if you can't even get a job? Invest all the money going to the walls and towers into hiring people to investigate companies hiring practices. Isn't that one of the problems, not enough staffing to monitor illegal hiring. If the argument is that those workers are needed to fulfill low-wage jobs in the US economy, well, perhaps the US should adopt a more liberal immigration or migrant worker policy to address that situation. Unfortunately, your government never likes to look at problems from within, only at the outside. The war on drugs should be proof enough that when people want something, they find a way to get it, no matter what the government does. At the end of the day, the people, guns and drugs will still cross both borders. The end user may pay more for it and the smugglers will make more money. How do convicted felons get their drugs in jail, they are locked up from society with no freedom but somehow they get access to drugs, remarkable ain't it?
 
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trevster2k said:



In the meantime, the rest of the world including China and India are going to pass you by while you shore up your defenses and neglect your education, infrastructure and social needs. Yep, Al Qaeda is going to bankrupt the US on threats alone. Hopefully, Canada won't get sucked into your vortex.


:yes:
 
trevster2k said:
I love living next to the most paranoid country on the planet.


I am sure you would probably be a little more understanding if Toronto or Vancouver were hit with the same casualties as 9/11.

Being cautious and prepared is not the same as being paranoid. Americans are still going about their daily lives even though they have a big target on their head. We are far from paranoid my friend.

You did make some good points about migrant labor. In my opinion – if it is too expensive to make something without cheap, illegal labor – then too bad. The same argument was made by the South to justify slavery. In the end, the economy will adjust and we’ll be better off for it.
 
AEON said:


Being cautious and prepared is not the same as being paranoid. Americans are still going about their daily lives even though they have a big target on their head. We are far from paranoid my friend.

:eyebrow: Wow, you must live in a different country than I...
 
BonoVoxSupastar said:


:eyebrow: Wow, you must live in a different country than I...

Why? Are you typing from an undergound shelter in Wyoming or something?
 
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