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Old 12-08-2003, 07:22 PM   #1
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Al GoreGASMS over Dean NEWS at 11:00

Big News Coming......
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Old 12-08-2003, 07:32 PM   #2
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News at 7:00.

Several other Dems have come out in support of him. Truly other than his anti-Iraq stance he is much more moderate than anyone but Lieberman.

I was very impressed in his handling of Chris Matthews on Hardball. If he can laugh off that, he may really have a chance. Course Wes as VP wouldn't hurt either.
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I'm a little surprised at this considering that Lieberman was his running mate. But that's politics. Dean is a moderate; look at that NRA score of his. I do wonder if the Republicans want to try to fry him as an Eastern liberal a la Dukakis.
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I doubt he'll let them do that. That is one reason the feisty Molly Irvins is backing him. He won't lay there like the latest Dems. but will fight back.

Can we hear a Hallelujah.
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Heh...with a title like that, I'm surprised you are so offended by Kerry saying "fuck."

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Heh...with a title like that, I'm surprised you are so offended by Kerry saying "fuck."

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I feel sorry for Joe, I'm sure he feels betrayed

I don't know how much a Gore endorsement will help Dean though
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I feel sorry for Joe, I'm sure he feels betrayed

I don't know how much a Gore endorsement will help Dean though
good observation..
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Dean is considered a Liberal rather than a moderate because of his stance on the Iraq war. The majority of the American people, the majority of the US congress, supported the overthrow of Saddam. If Dean had been president the past 3 years, Saddam would still be in power in Iraq right now. If one thinks a situation like that would be better for the world at this time, vote for Dean. Only the liberal wing of the Democratic Party was solidly against the war, and Dean's position on it is really what defines him more than any other single issue. That is why he is a liberal rather than a moderate. I hope he wins the Democratic nomination, because he will be one of the easier candidates to defeat.
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We'll just see what happens. I don't think anyone has a crystal ball. I don't think Gore is in a position to play king-maker. I voted for him, but he lost his own home state. I think he's a good guy but a lousy politician.
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I hope he wins the Democratic nomination, because he will be one of the easier candidates to defeat.
It's a statement like this that makes the GOP agitprop worthy of Machiavellian admiration, because they are most threatened by Dean. When stacked up against a Republican and a Republican, people will vote, well...Republican. When stacked up against a Republican and a Democrat, well...the decision is less clear. By planting this statement into the collective consciousness, the GOP hopes to get the leg up--by making it appear that, no matter the candidate, they have the advantage.

And you quote them like they are second-nature. Good job!

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Gore was always more liberal than what he put on, but, taking a page from the book of Clinton, he hugged tightly to the center. The belief was that hugging tightly to the center was what the nation's voters wanted. But, again, when forced to choose between a Republican and a Republican...

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Dean is considered a Liberal rather than a moderate because of his stance on the Iraq war. The majority of the American people, the majority of the US congress, supported the overthrow of Saddam. If Dean had been president the past 3 years, Saddam would still be in power in Iraq right now. If one thinks a situation like that would be better for the world at this time, vote for Dean. Only the liberal wing of the Democratic Party was solidly against the war, and Dean's position on it is really what defines him more than any other single issue. That is why he is a liberal rather than a moderate. I hope he wins the Democratic nomination, because he will be one of the easier candidates to defeat.
The majority of Congress may have voted that way, but I feel many did so not because they honestly believed in the war. Many who voted for have spoken against Bush's actions since then. Congress was asleep at the wheel and Bush took advantage of the state of America at that point.

I love how you are the only one I know that has a crystal ball and for certain can predict that Saddam would still be in power now if Dean had been president. You're the only one that knows for certain that he wouldn't have been able to convince the UN or had found a way to take Saddam out of power and still known where he is. I think with more and more reports that this war was not a neccesity and that WMDs have not been found, I think your predictions may not be as sound as you believe.

But I guess we'll see. For this nation and the world's sake, I hope your crystal ball is faulty.
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I feel sorry for Joe, I'm sure he feels betrayed

I don't know how much a Gore endorsement will help Dean though
I am pretty much disgusted with Mr. Gore.

Joe held back on announcing early....possibly hurting his chances...out of respect for Gore possibly deciding he wanted to run.

Way to treat your former running mate.
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