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Old 09-19-2007, 05:09 PM   #1
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Ahmadinejad Wants To Visit Ground Zero

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By SARAH GARLAND
Staff Reporter of the Sun
September 19, 2007 updated 3:41 pm EDT

In a move that has stunned New York, the Bloomberg administration is in discussions to escort the Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, to ground zero during his visit to New York next week, Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said today.

The Iranian mission to the U.N. made the request to the New York City Police Department and the Secret Service, which will jointly oversee security during the leader's two-day visit. Mr. Ahmadinejad is scheduled to arrive September 24 to speak to the U.N. General Assembly as the Security Council decides whether to increase sanctions against his country for its uranium enrichment program.

Mr. Kelly said the NYPD and Secret Service were in discussions with the Iranian Mission about the logistics for the possible visit, and whether it will take place at all. He said that for safety reasons related to ongoing construction at ground zero Mr. Ahmadinejad would not be allowed to descend into the pit.

"There has been some interest expressed in his visiting the area," Mr. Kelly said. "It's something that we are prepared to handle if in fact it does happen."

Mr. Kelly said Mr. Ahmadinejad had not indicated why he wants to visit the site of the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001.

Several presidential candidates quickly condemned the proposed visit.

"It is an insult to the memories of those who died on 9/11 at the hands of terrorists, and those who have fought terrorism for years, to allow the president of the world's top state sponsor of terrorism to step foot at ground zero," a spokeswoman for Senator Thompson, Karen Hanretty, said. "Iran is responsible for supplying weapons and supporting extremist who are killing U.S. forces in Iraq and Afghanistan to this very day."

A Republican candidate, Mitt Romney, called the plan "shockingly audacious."

"It's inconceivable that any consideration would be given to the idea of entertaining the leader of a state sponsor of terror at ground zero," Mr. Romney said in a statement. "This would deeply offend the sensibilities of Americans from all corners of our nation. Instead of entertaining Ahmadinejad, we should be indicting him."

A major American Jewish leader, Malcolm Hoenlein, said a visit by Mr. Ahmadinejad "would violate the sanctity of the sacred place and the memory of those who perished there."

Mr. Hoenlein, the vice chairman of the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations, is a leading figure in organizing a protest against the Iranian leader Monday in front of the U.N.

He told The New York Sun that the Iranian president should be restricted to the immediate vicinity of the U.N. and should not be permitted to travel the full extent of the 25-mile radius that is normally allowed for foreign dignitaries attending meetings at the world body.

Iran has been called the world's "most active state sponsor of terrorism" by the U.S. State Department.
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Oh, so Malcolm Hoenlein is a "major American Jewish leader" now? Well, at least I've heard of him, though most American Jews wouldn't have; he's the chairman of a small but influential (and very conservative) Israel policy lobbying group (the CoP).

At any rate, the NYPD has since clarified that Commissioner Kelly misspoke and in fact Ahmadinejad's proposed visit had already been nixed.
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So they said no for security and safety reasons. You must be able to lay a wreath there without going into the pit, he could have done that. I think it's still an interesting hypothetical as to whether or not he should be allowed to do so, security and safety aside.
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If I recall Iran condemned the 911 attacks
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Iran has absolutely no connection to 911..
there are no Iranians at ground zero.


but, there are a few Saudis.




Has this guy had his visit, yet?
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While I welcome any effort for dialogue and understanding, it would be totally hypocritical to allow the president of Iran to visit ground zero while Iran remains the chief sponsor of terror in the world and a great supporter of Osama Bin Laden - who CAUSED the creation of ground zero in the first place.

If he really wants to pay his respects to the innocent victims, then he should wake up, stop funding terrorist groups like Hamas and Hezbollah, stop threatening Israel with annihaliation (which is utterly laughable and will NEVER happen) and realize that he's causing nothing but harm to his people by using the wealth of his country to fund terrorists and instead of providing for them.

I agree that letting him go there would be like letting Hitler visit Yad Vashem in Jerusalem.

Let him pay his respects by changing his militant attitude and becoming a man of peace.
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the thing that we're supposed to be protecting here... the thing that we're supposed to stand for in this country is freedom.

if he wants to visit, let him visit.
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I'm curious why he wants to visit the site.

As for him/Iran being the "chief sponsor of terror" as I recall deep is correct; Iran has never been linked to 9/11 so I'm not quite sure I see the relevance.

And as for Hoenlein's suggestion that his movements should be restricted to less than the 25 mile radius...if we're monitoring diplomats' activities in NYC I'd start with the various criminals who drive drunk and kill people, and who commit rape and other violent crimes, and hide behind their diplomatic immunity.
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i'd be pissed off if he went to ground zero... i'd be highly offended if he went down there and made a mockery of the sacred ground. but, alas, this is america. if that's what he wants to do while he's here, he should be allowed to do so.
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I don't have any problem with him visiting the site. If he'd like to lay a wreath, he is welcome to as far as I'm concerned.
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An article I just read said there were several Iranians killed there

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2...und-zero_N.htm
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i'd be pissed off if he went to ground zero... i'd be highly offended if he went down there and made a mockery of the sacred ground. but, alas, this is america. if that's what he wants to do while he's here, he should be allowed to do so.
I wonder if that's his plan though. I'm honestly curious why he wants to go, and I guess only he knows.

But I agree, he should be allowed to go, as much as we might not want him there.
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I've got mixed feelings on this one.

Part of me thinks it would be a good thing for him to visit....maybe open his eyes a little more and maybe something would start brewing in him to change his country's standards---whatever they may be as of today. Maybe he's trying to show a sign of respect in a way.

The other part of thinks he's got absolutely no business being there and I can see how it could possibly be a bit of a slap in the face for Americans. Like he's mocking us in a way, or as if he's going to scope out the place to see with his own eyes the site of the terrorism was.

Like I said, I'm torn. I usually think the best of people and get proven wrong mroe times than I'm right. Which makes me remind myself that there are horrible, evil, and back handed people out there and any one can lie, steal, cheat, or kill.

Another question raised in my head....why are we even allowing or inviting him in to the country---if his country has been supporting troops with weapons, etc. to use against American troops?
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