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Old 05-16-2002, 11:55 PM   #1
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Aha, Seems maybe something WAS being done

by the Bush Admin to try to stop whatever Osama was planning...
http://msnbc.com/news/753359.asp
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Old 05-17-2002, 12:48 PM   #2
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NO NO NO 80's


they KNEW EXACTLY WHEN WHERE AND HOW

and they let it happen


(yes, sarcasm)


I hope some of the fools in the other thread read this and wake up

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it points out some things mentioned before, like how quickly after 9/11 the media reported on Al Queda and Bin Laden. Remember that they have been suspects as far back as ten years ago. When the Oklahoma city Murrah Federal building blew up, the media was reporting mid-east terrorists almost immediately. That is before the evidence started to roll in, the highest probable speculation was being reported or alluded to.

Therefore, it makes perfect sense that the Bush administration was developing plans to wipe Al Queda off the earth. Considering the USS Cole and everything prior to it and the imminent threats, they were coming in to do their duty. The actual events of 9/11 happened first.
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I smell agitprop...

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I smell agitprop...

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You should, it's reeking from the left and hit the mainstream yesterday, still stinks
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I was referring to the MSNBC article. Just a lie to cover up a potential embarrassment.

What do I think happened? Al-Qaeda is known for barraging us with lots of false alarms and throwing in a real attack in it all. The Bush Administration, thinking it was a false alarm like the rest, overlooked this threat. No, it isn't some grand conspiracy; just human error. Unfortunately, that "human error" killed lots of people, but that is the nature of power.

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It takes one to know one, Arun.

Seems you received your wake up call on Sept 11th...
I'll bet any money you'll be receiving another one one day.
And another.
And another.
TILL YOU LEARN.

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It seems that no one is paying attention to the many many other people who knew and heard this exact same warning that Bush was given.

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EIB: SEnators Knew Too:

There's no question that this story about the White House receiving a generic hijack warning comes from a leak. This is a leak from somebody in the House or the Senate, either in the select, joint or bipartisan intelligence committee, or one of the two House or Senate intelligence committees. Somebody there got hold of all this and leaked it to the press.



Now, for that leak to happen, these people had to know, right? So we can ask, "What did they do?" Even if some of them didn't learn it until after September 11th, what are they doing sitting on the information all this time? There could be future attacks that we could be warned about! Remember, now: none of the aviation students referenced in the FBI Phoenix office memo have been connected to the hijackings of September 11th. That information didn't apply then, but the Senate's information sure does.

The Washington Post: "The information lacked specific details about how the terrorist plans would be carried out...the White House said last night that law enforcement agencies were quietly placed on alert as a result of the intelligence." So Bush did what was called for. He didn't panic the people. Senator Bob Graham (D-FL), chairman of the Senate intelligence committee, said that he has been told of a CIA document that reached Bush in August warning him of a more specific al-Qaeda attack involving an airliner. Graham said he had not read the document but that congressional staffers have. He's chairman, but he didn't bother to look at this!





Senator Shelby, the ranking Republican on intelligence, said "the Phoenix agent's memo was a very important warning and it wasn't heeded." On The Today Show, Senator Shelby admitted that his committee was aware of the general warning the president received in his daily briefing. So the question is: what did these senators and other members of that committee do with the information other than sit on their hands?

The news also talks about Bush having been briefed about possible hijackings by bin Laden's group, which does not appear to have been in the memo from the Arizona field office. But the argument is the same: What did the Senate do when informed about possible efforts by bin Laden cronies to get flight training at schools in Arizona? Answer: nothing. They didn't hold any hearings that we're aware of. They didn't call for any law enforcement academies that we're aware of, and they didn't subpoena any information.

The mainstream media has not asked and will not ask the senators these questions. Nor will they ask where this leak came from - and point the finger at the man who was thrown off this very same committee for leaking classified information before: Senator Patrick Leahy of Vermont. Since this program is indeed show-prep for the cable news channels, let me help all of you find some other people to ask the question of the day: What did you know and when did you know it?

The Senate intelligence committee: Bob Graham, Carl Levin, Jay Rockefeller, Dianne Feinstein, Ron Wyden, Richard Durbin, Evan Bayh, John Edwards and Barbara Mikulski - Democrats. Richard Shelby, Richard Lugar, Fred Thompson, John Kyl, James Inhoff, Orrin Hatch, Pat Roberts and Mike DeWine - Republicans. These senators had the information. They're running around acting like they weren't in the loop, but they were indeed in the loop - where are the questions? Where?



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Please define "agitprop"

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It takes one to know one, Arun.

Seems you received your wake up call on Sept 11th...
I'll bet any money you'll be receiving another one one day.
And another.
And another.
TILL YOU LEARN.


You know what


You of all people have no rights to question my learning process of what I did and didn't learn. No one appointed you to evaluate me.


And if learning makes me share your views on everything I'd rather be a fool




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You of all people have no rights to question my learning process of what I did and didn't learn. No one appointed you to evaluate me.

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Well said 1/2-Arun


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Its time to chill and leave Arun alone.

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I think I might make up a story that G. W. Bush, Osama bin Laden, Ariel Sharon and Wayne Newton planned the whole thing at Waffle House one night, and I will leak it to the media.

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I think I might make up a story that G. W. Bush, Osama bin Laden, Ariel Sharon and Wayne Newton planned the whole thing at Waffle House one night, and I will leak it to the media.

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