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Old 01-29-2005, 04:17 PM   #16
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Are you sure the guy wasn't just sneezing?
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Old 01-29-2005, 04:35 PM   #17
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I don't understand the intention here but I can't say that this photo, while very touching, justifies the war in Iraq or George W. Bush's lies in any way. That would be pretty Machiavellian. At what price and how do we get this wonderful picture?

We do take our rights for granted and that's why it's so easy for neo-liberal and neo-conservative governments to take them away from us.

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Old 01-30-2005, 06:01 AM   #18
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I don't understand the intention here but I can't say that this photo, while very touching, justifies the war in Iraq or George W. Bush's lies in any way.
Uh, that wasn't my intention at all.
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That's ok. That's why I said, "I don't understand the intention here...". I meant to make it very clear that I was unsure of the intention. I didn't mean to insinuate that this was your intention, just that this touching picture isn't as powerful and certain a statement to me as it seems to be for some others, particularly in the sense that Iraq is a mess right now. With today's election there will be a lot of new dead bodies showing up and a lot of people crying for a host of other reasons. This man could be upset for a lot of reasons and I'm not sure how we're sure that he's crying because he gets to cast a vote. There are a lot of possibilities here. Maybe he had family over there that was killed by Saddam or by US troops? How do we know? Again, I like the picture but it could very easily be propaganda.

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Over 72% of the iraqi people voted today,thats a higher percentage rate than the u.s!What a great day for freedom
and democracy!
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The scary thing with democracy and why it is bit bad is everyone has equal power even the one who is sitting every day watching the sports and soaps and porn on the tv and stuffing their faces with Mcdonalds. What the f(*& do they know and how they make correct, informed decison. Answer is they don't. So you end up with a kind of lowest common demon leader.

This last election in the US is example. Regardless of left and right, liberal and conservative, it is surely the case that Kerry and Bush are not the supreme Americans. I am sure there are better leaders in the teams of football, baseball and also the corporate world who are better communicators and of more intelligence and charisma.

But also it is very dangerous to trust small elite group to provide leader. So is always going to be compromise.
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Old 01-31-2005, 04:17 AM   #22
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Over 72% of the iraqi people voted today,thats a higher percentage rate than the u.s!What a great day for freedom
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Yes this is a great day for Democracy.

All these voters in Iraq seem to be happy in have their voting rights except two who are members of Interferece.Com.

They claimed the lines were too long.

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Old 01-31-2005, 05:13 AM   #23
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We do take our rights for granted.

Maybe that is what this thread is all about.
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Thanks Tania, that's all I was thinking of
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I didn't intend to make any poor or offensive inferences from your post. Sorry if I offended you.

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You didn't offend me jon (if you were talking to me) I appreciate that though, you're classy
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We do take our rights for granted.

Maybe that is what this thread is all about.
I agree. We have the right to vote and too many people don't use theirs. I agree that we don't necessarily get the best candidates, but we should still vote.
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