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Old 02-24-2007, 11:28 AM   #16
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Old 02-24-2007, 11:42 AM   #18
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2 September 2004

Victory in the War on Terror

By Gwynne Dyer

"With the right policies, this is a war we can win, this is a war
we must win, and this is a war we will win," said Democratic presidential
candidate John Kerry in Tennessee on 31 August. "The war on terrorism is
absolutely winnable," repeated his vice-presidential running mate, Senator
John Edwards. That is utter drivel, and they must privately know it, but
truth generally loses to calculated lies in politics.

This outburst of bravado was prompted by President George W. Bush's
brief brush with the truth about terrorism the previous weekend, when he
told an interviewer that he did not really think you can win the war on
terror, but that conditions could be changed in ways that would make
terrorists less acceptable in certain parts of the world. For a moment
there, you glimpsed a functioning intellect at work. Such honesty rarely
goes unpunished in politics.

This heroic attempt to grapple with reality was a welcome departure
from Mr Bush's usual style -- "I have a clear vision of how to win the war
on terror and bring peace to the world," he was claiming as recently as 30
August -- and so his opponents pounced on it at once. "What if President
Reagan had said that it may be difficult to win the war against Communism?"
asked John Edwards, in one of the least credible displays of indignation in
American history.

Mr Bush promptly fled back to the safe terrain of hypocrisy and
patriotic lies. "We meet today in a time of war for our country, a war we
did not start, yet one that we will win," he told a veterans' conference in
Nashville on 1 September. But it is not "a time of war" for the United
States, and it cannot "win.".

Some 140,000 young American soldiers are trapped in a neo-colonial
war in Iraq (where there were no terrorists until the US invasion), but
their casualties are typical of colonial wars: fewer than one percent
killed a year. As for the three hundred million Americans at home, exactly
as many of them have been killed by terrorists since 9/11 as have been
killed by the Creature from the Black Lagoon in the same period. None.

The rhetoric of a "war on terror" have been useful to the Bush
administration, and terrorism now bulks inordinately large in any media
where the agenda is set by American perspectives. On the front page of the
International Herald Tribune that carried the story on Mr Bush's return to
political orthodoxy on terrorism, four of the other five stories were also
about terrorism: "Twin bus bombs kill 16 in Israel," "Blast leaves 8 dead
in Moscow subway," "12 Nepal hostages slain in Iraq," and "French hold
hectic talks on captives."

In other words, thirty-six of the quarter-million people who died
on this planet on the 31st of August were killed by terrorists: close to
one in eight thousand. No wonder the IHT headlined its front page "A
Deadly Day of Terror." Although it would have been on firmer statistical
ground if it had substituted the headline "A Deadly Day for Swimming" or
even "A Deadly Day for Falling Off Ladders."

Actually, more than 36 people were killed by "terrorists" on 31
August -- perhaps as many as fifty or sixty. The rest were just killed in
wars that the United States is not all that interested in: in Nepal, in
Peru, in Burundi, and in other out-of-the-way countries where the local
guerrillas are not Muslims and have no imaginable links with the terrorists
who attacked the United States.

Governments that are fighting Muslim rebels, like the Palestinians
in the Israeli-occupied territories or the Chechens in Russia, have had
more success in tying their local counter-insurgency struggles to the US
"war on terror," but that only means that Washington doesn't criticise
their human rights violations so much. The only terrorists that the United
States government really worries about -- and this would be equally true
under a Kerry administration -- are terrorists who attack Americans. There
aren't that many of them, and they aren't that dangerous.

George W. Bush spoke the truth, briefly, at the end of August, when
he said that the "war on terror" cannot be won. It cannot be won OR lost,
because it is only a metaphor, not an actual war. It is like the "war on
crime," another metaphor. Nobody ever expected that the "war on crime"
would one day end in a surrender ceremony where all the criminals come out
with their hands up, and afterwards there is no more crime. It is a
STATISTICAL operation, and success is measured by how successful you are in
getting the crime RATE down. Same goes for terrorism.

You could do worse than to listen to Stella Rimington, the former
director of MI5, Britain's intelligence agency for domestic operations:
"I'm afraid that terrorism didn't begin on 9/11 and it will be around for a
long time. I was very surprised by the announcement of a war on terrorism
because terrorism has been around for thirty-five years...[and it] will be
around while there are people with grievances. There are things we can to
improve the situation, but there will always be terrorism. One can be
misled by talking about a war, as though in some way you can defeat it."
As Mr Bush said before his handlers got the muzzle back on.
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Old 02-24-2007, 12:43 PM   #19
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Well we do have that "war on drugs", that's kicking ass fact, compared to the war on drugs the war on terror is going swimmingly.
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Old 02-24-2007, 01:16 PM   #20
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A comparison to what happened to piracy in the 18th Century may be apt; but in truth the war on terrorism is a fallacy, it is a war on Islamism.
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Old 02-24-2007, 03:30 PM   #21
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Originally posted by AchtungBono

My reply is my personal opinion and is in no way a personal attack against Irvine or anyone else on this board.


Irvine, after reading the manifesto in your post I would like to rephrase the question....

"How can we guarantee the victory of worldwide terrorism and allow Al-Qaida agents unlimited access to our country?
How can we make sure that they will not be hindered by stupid laws meant to prevent them from attacking the United States at will.....?
How can we guarantee the re-occurance of 9/11 with even MORE casualties while making sure that the perpertrators go unpunished?

It's ALL in the enclosed manifesto.


I DREAD the day George Bush leaves office.......
Wow. That's really something. I don't know what to be more in awe of - the response itself or the view of reality, human rights and freedom that would create such a response.

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