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Old 07-08-2002, 07:23 PM   #1
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Normal Adam, The Dinousaurs. The Creation..How do you BELIEVERS reconcile the EvolutionFolk?

See the argument is this-

Adam and Eve are 6000-7000 yrs old.
We have bones from PreHistoric Creatures way before that.(millions of years!)

We also have HUMAN bones from 10000 years ago as WELL!--- 4000 years before Adam and Eve.!!
The bible only goes back 6000 yrs as fars as a recorded history of Man on Earth-- Adam and Eve.
Theres a huge disconnect here. How do we believers explain this one.?

Anyway-


I have a theory
A theory predicated on The Scripture.
What is yours?

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There is just a different measurement of time I think. The old testament of the bible is simply a rough description not to be taken literally, at least that is what I think, and how I was raised as a Roman Catholic. I've never seen any real conflict at all to be honest.
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Also, the old testament isn't neccessarily about when events took place, but that they did take place and were important events that would change society.
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Hmm.
Thanks Sting2.
Thats how Catholics explain then.:idea:

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I don't think there's any conflict. The Bible is meant to be (at least it's *meant to be*) a universal, timeless record of Scripture. I don't really use time as a frame of reference for the Bible, apart from a vague sense of "a long, long time ago."

I believe that God created everything that exists. I do not particularly care how S/he did it or how long it took. Creating everything is sufficiently awesome to inspire my love and respect for the Godhead.
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I don't know really, as a believer i have always wondered. One thing for sure is that the truth will be revealed to us in due time.

Another thing about the bible is that time as they speak of it does not exist in the same measurements as we have today. For instance, if someone Moses lived to be 800 years old, then what would he consider a "generation". Keep this in mind when you hear that the generation that sees "certain things" come to pass (like Israel becoming a nation) will be the generation that is alive for the return of Christ.

One theory I have about scientists is that some of their logic could be flawed, though not necessarily by fault of their own. I mean consider how many scientists are not believers, and how much of their "evidence" refutes the scripture.

This may be by design folks, as in we are free to choose what to believe in. Therefore we have scientific evidence to believe or in many cases we have a very different version in the scripture. We are told in the bible that we will be tempted by the other side, and the other side will be more and more convincing in the end times.
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i know what sting2 is talking about. how there aren't really times in the Bible, just eras. like the seven days in which He created the world could have been thousands of years, we just don't know that.


at any rate, carbon dating isn't the most accurate thing on earth either. it can be off with a range from 4,000-6,000 years. carbon dating only gives paleontologists a clue to the era. by gathering era clues we can understand the progression of the era.
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Interesting reponses so far..

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I do not particularly care how S/he did it or how long it took.
S/he?

I believe Jesus created in the image of the Father, in the flesh is not a S/he.

Plus, if God were a woman, we would never have gotten a second chance

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did Dinosaur Jr. break-up?
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did Dinosaur Jr. break-up?
Brother Wanderer-
Pass me that FATTY, and lets at least try and stay on topic ok?
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S/he?

I believe Jesus created in the image of the Father, in the flesh is not a S/he.

and I believe we are ALL created in the image of God, thank you very much
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S/he?

I believe Jesus created in the image of the Father, in the flesh is not a S/he.
This doesn't answer the original question (sorry, Diamond!), but I felt compelled to say that I believe that both God and Jesus are portrayed as/were men because we live in a male dominated society and women are not traditionally seen as authority figures. Personally, I don't believe God has a gender, and I think the only reason Jesus was a man was because a woman wouldn't have been listened to. Just my $0.02.
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i'm with z edge on this one (as well as lilly and others).....time is not the important thing.....god always has been and always will be.....we live for what? 80 years?.....of course our understanding of time is a bit jaded.....i mean, that's no excuse or easy cop out, but i truly believe that time in and of itself is not important....
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I think a lot of Genesis is metaphorical. I think it's stupid to try to work out exact dates and things based on it, because a lot of it isn't true - Adam and Eve for example. I was reading a thread yesterday where someone explained why the story of Adam and Eve was made up, (but I can't remember it exactly so I won't try to explain or I'll only get it wrong.)

I really don't see why people are so concerned about exactly how humans came to exist and things like that. In the end it doesn't matter to me how God created us, it matters that He did. If only people didn't feel the need to know absolutely everything, things would be a lot simpler.
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