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Old 09-15-2006, 05:21 PM   #46
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What would happen if let's just say as an example the countries such as iran, Saudi Arabia and others started a world wide conquest to convert the masses, would you still hold the same feelings?
Why, such extremes? Really, what's the point? Basically you're asking, what if another Crusades?

Well what if Christians did it? What if Jews did it?

You keep equating a minority percentage to the religion as a whole. You can't do that. Quit speaking in 'what ifs' and speak in fact.
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Well the minority can grow into a majority, just look at whats happening in Europe.
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Well the minority can grow into a majority, just look at whats happening in Europe.
Education goes a long way...
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Are you an expert in Islamic studies?
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Are you an expert in Islamic studies?
By no means...

Being educated and being an expert are two entirely different things...
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This thread needs an expert in Islamic studies.
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Ok getting back on topic. From that article I posted, It said the cop had no right to ask for ID. As far as I know when you get pulled over the police always ask for ID, Proof of registration and insurance. So these men have no case.
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Ok getting back on topic. From that article I posted, It said the cop had no right to ask for ID. As far as I know when you get pulled over the police always ask for ID, Proof of registration and insurance. So these men have no case.
From my understanding it depends on state. Some states you can only ask for the ID of the driver unless there was alcohol etc in the car, but these men weren't driving.
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Rhode Island state trooper who apprehended 14 illegal immigrants during a traffic stop, charging "racial profiling" and insisting the officer had no right to ask for ID.

The Rhode Island affiliate of the ACLU filed the case after the driver and several passengers alleged Trooper Thomas Chabot overstepped his authority during the July 11 traffic stop by taking immigration enforcement into his own hands, the Providence Journal reported.

However, asking for identification during traffic stops is a department procedure, and when the passengers could not provide valid ID, Chabot contacted officials with the Department of Homeland Security's Immigration and Customs Enforcement division.
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I understand that, but is it procedure to ID passengers? To me that really doesn't make sense if it is. What if they are 15 and have no ID?
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Good Point. Answer me this yes or no. Isn't it the job of the president and the rest of the government to protect the citizens of the United States??
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Yes, but what does this have to do with the ACLU?
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From my experience growing up in RI, it was common practice to get IDs for all the passengers in the vehicle.
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Yes, but what does this have to do with the ACLU?
So then why does the ACLU sue the government when it tries to enforce the law of the land and protect it's citizens, such as border controll and arressting and depoting illegal immigrants?
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I've never been carded as a passenger. And I've been in a many of pulled over cars across the country.
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