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Old 06-05-2006, 02:36 PM   #1
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ABA to investigate Bush

[q]Bar group will review Bush's legal challenges
By Charlie Savage, Globe Staff | June 4, 2006

WASHINGTON -- The board of governors of the American Bar Association voted unanimously yesterday to investigate whether President Bush has exceeded his constitutional authority in reserving the right to ignore more than 750 laws that have been enacted since he took office.

Meeting in New Orleans, the board of governors for the world's largest association of legal professionals approved the creation of an all-star legal panel with a number of members from both political parties.

They include a former federal appeals court chief judge, a former FBI director, and several prominent scholars -- to evaluate Bush's assertions that he has the power to ignore laws that conflict with his interpretation of the Constitution.

Bush has appended statements to new laws when he signs them, noting which provisions he believes interfere with his powers.

Among the laws Bush has challenged are the ban on torturing detainees, oversight provisions in the USA Patriot Act, and ``whistle-blower" protections for federal employees.

The challenges also have included safeguards against political interference in taxpayer-funded research.

Bush has challenged more laws than all previous presidents combined.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/wa...al_challenges/

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among the many catastrophies of this administration, the understanding of the Constitution as suggestion and not law has to rank towards the top. the focus will be Bush's extraordinary use of "signing statements" to retroactively invalidate parts of over 750 statutes.

Republicans and Democrats are on the panel.

can anyone else smell impeachment hearings in early 2007?
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Better late than never.
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If the Nov elections are a blow-out,
then W's head could be on the chopping block.


The GOP will figure it is easier to abandon this Administration
than go down with the sinking ship.


I was young, but I do remember Nixon,
and how at one point even his staunchest supporters just walked away.
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Another meaningless political move by the ABA. I guess regulation of lawyers is outside their area of interest.
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Another meaningless political move by the ABA. I guess regulation of lawyers is outside their area of interest.
And, yet, investigating blow jobs was the utmost priority affecting America in the mid-to-late 1990s.

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Perjury about a blow job.

I know I felt my country crumbling down around me over that.
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And, yet, investigating blow jobs was the utmost priority affecting America in the mid-to-late 1990s.

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Did the ABA get involved in that one as well? I don't see the relevence of the comment.
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I don't know about impeachment. I think Bush is going to become a lame duck president because his Administration is so damaged it can't be brought back from its present state of paralysis. I suppose impeachment is possible but if you ask me the damage has already been done.
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i sense a lot of unpatriotic sentiment in this thread, guys. let's cool it off, or we'll start thinking some of you might even be liberals.
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For goodness sakes....I wish they'd leave the guy ALONE already!!
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For goodness sakes....I wish they'd leave the guy ALONE already!!
Leave him alone? Nothing like this has been done yet. If he broke the law he needs to be brought to justice, no?
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Leave him alone? Nthing like this has been done yet. If he broke the law he needs to be brought to justice, no?
Hi BVS....*waves*.

Yes he does....IF he broke the law.
I hope that this will be a legitimate probe and not just another opportunity for a Bush-bash, which seems to be the world's favorite pastime these days.

Also, don't forget that the world has changed drastically from when he first came to power and certain laws had to be amended or expanded to include the threats that the United States faces now.
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Also, don't forget that the world has changed drastically from when he first came to power and certain laws had to be amended or expanded to include the threats that the United States faces now.
I don't buy this. With the exception of the Patriot Act(which doesn't cover any of issues being discussed by the ABA), has there been any legal ammending or "expanding" of the law?
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I don't buy this. With the exception of the Patriot Act(which doesn't cover any of issues being discussed by the ABA), has there been any legal ammending or "expanding" of the law?
I honestly don't know about that.

However, I'm almost positive that, in a state of emergency, the congress provided the president with certain executive powers beyond the scope of his normal ones, didn't they?

I guess its like an undercover cop getting special permission to break the law in order to bring down the bad guys, otherwise he wouldn't be able to do his job effectively.
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I honestly don't know about that.

However, I'm almost positive that, in a state of emergency, the congress provided the president with certain executive powers beyond the scope of his normal ones, didn't they?
Herein lies the problem. There is still constitutional precedent...

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I guess its like an undercover cop getting special permission to break the law in order to bring down the bad guys, otherwise he wouldn't be able to do his job effectively.
Well I think you may be watching a little bit too much TV. Yes a cop may abuse their authority, but not by permission for they will have evidence thrown out if obtained illegally. There is no "otherwise he wouldn't be able to do his job effectively".
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