"A symbol of our freedom and independence" - U2 Feedback

Go Back   U2 Feedback > Lypton Village > Free Your Mind > Free Your Mind Archive
Click Here to Login
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 04-27-2006, 12:57 PM   #1
Blue Crack Distributor
 
Headache in a Suitcase's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Stateless
Posts: 56,460
Local Time: 12:50 PM
"A symbol of our freedom and independence"



NEW YORK (CNN) -- Trucks rolled onto the World Trade Center site Thursday morning as workers gathered to start long-delayed construction at 9/11's Ground Zero.

The intention is to build the tallest building in North America to fill the hole in the New York skyline left by the 2001 terrorist attacks.

"It is going to be a symbol of our freedom and independence," Gov. George Pataki said at a news conference on the ramp into the site, according to The Associated Press.

The move follows an agreement on Wednesday between the owner of the 16-acre site and the real estate developer who leased it six weeks before the towers were destroyed.

The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, the transportation agency that built the 110-story twin towers in the early 1970s and ran them until July 2001, approved the deal with developer Larry Silverstein in a board meeting Wednesday afternoon.

The deal settles financing for the "Freedom Tower," the planned 1,776-foot building to be erected on the northern end of the site.

"We agreed to all of the port's economic terms in its proposal to restructure our 99-year lease," Silverstein said. "This is a fair deal."

Silverstein will cede control of the Freedom Tower to the Port Authority. He will collect a 1 percent developer's fee on the estimated $2 billion project, but the Port Authority will manage the building when it is completed. It is slated to be ready for occupancy in 2010.

Freedom Tower construction will move forward with installment of foundation footings. The building is to rise 1,360 feet, the height of the original twin towers. A spire will raise it to the height symbolic for the year of the American Revolution.

A memorial to the 2,973 September 11 victims and six people killed in a 1993 truck bombing will be located on the southern half of the site. It is expected to be completed in 2009, financed through private donations.

Pataki addressed concerns about the tower becoming a terrorist target while at the site with New Jersey Gov. Jon Corzine, Mayor Michael Bloomberg and Silverstein, the AP reported. "We are not going to just build low in the face of a war against terror," Pataki said.

Never stopped paying rent
Wednesday's deal marks the third time since the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks destroyed 12 million square feet of office space that Silverstein's firm has amended his $120 million-per-year lease. He has never stopped paying rent, though he has collected no revenue on the site since the attacks.

Silverstein will retain control of three buildings planned along the site's eastern edge, Church Street, which will house much of the planned complex's street-level retail space. He will receive a 2 percent developer's fee for those buildings, due to be completed in 2012. One is a 950-foot tower to be designed by renowned British architect Norman Foster.

Silverstein will also cede control to the Port Authority of a plot of land across the street from the site's southern end, where a fifth building would go, according to the plan.

The damaged Deutsche Bank building that currently stands there is being dismantled, possibly to be replaced by a residential tower.

Overall, the five planned buildings would create 10 million square feet -- approximately 6.2 million square feet for the three Church Street buildings, 2.6 million square feet in the Freedom Tower and as much as 1.2 million square feet in the fifth building.

'Finger-pointing must stop'
The Port Authority will significantly reduce Silverstein's rent, though by how much was not disclosed.

Silverstein will allocate to the Port Authority 38 percent of the $3.34 billion in tax-exempt Liberty Bonds he is due to receive from the state and the city and a portion of approximately $3 billion in insurance proceeds he is due to collect.

"We have made real concessions," Silverstein said. "This is about moving the rebuilding forward as quickly as possible. All the finger-pointing must stop, and we must all work together to achieve our vital mission -- to fully revitalize and renew New York's historic downtown region."

Silverstein, who lost four employees in the September 11 attacks, said rebuilding is "an intensely personal endeavor for me."

He has already built, a block north of the site, an office tower that replaced World Trade Center 7, which he developed in the 1980s before taking over the whole site. A quarter of the building, 10 of the 42 habitable floors, are now leased. Next month, Silverstein Properties will be the first tenant to move in.

In recent weeks government officials had questioned whether Silverstein's financial position was strong enough to continue as the site developer, leading to the protracted negotiations.

Gov. George Pataki predicted that the rebuilt trade center will "anchor the financial capital of the world and make our nation proud."

If built as planned, Freedom Tower will be taller than the Sears Tower in Chicago, which stands 1,450 feet.

The Associated Press contributed to this report
__________________

__________________
Headache in a Suitcase is offline  
Old 04-27-2006, 01:08 PM   #2
ONE
love, blood, life
 
Numb1075's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Tarrytown, NY
Posts: 11,382
Local Time: 12:50 PM
__________________

__________________
Numb1075 is offline  
Old 04-27-2006, 01:10 PM   #3
Blue Crack Addict
 
nbcrusader's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Southern California
Posts: 22,071
Local Time: 09:50 AM
__________________
nbcrusader is offline  
Old 04-27-2006, 01:14 PM   #4
Blue Crack Addict
 
U2democrat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: England by way of 'Murica.
Posts: 22,140
Local Time: 05:50 PM
It's better than a gaping hole, IMO
__________________
U2democrat is offline  
Old 04-27-2006, 01:15 PM   #5
War Child
 
MsGiggles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 905
Local Time: 03:50 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by U2democrat
It's better than a gaping hole, IMO
Agree

I like it
__________________
MsGiggles is offline  
Old 04-27-2006, 02:09 PM   #6
Rock n' Roll Doggie
 
randhail's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Outside Providence
Posts: 3,557
Local Time: 12:50 PM
I bet most people will have no idea why the tower will be 1776 ft tall
__________________
randhail is offline  
Old 04-27-2006, 03:36 PM   #7
War Child
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: New York, NY, USA
Posts: 613
Local Time: 05:50 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by U2democrat
It's better than a gaping hole, IMO
I was actually there this afternoon on my lunch break, and, looking at it, I realized that maybe a huge hole is best idea. I thought about how they are going to build this huge "penis" like structure on a grave site, how kind of cruel that is.

I'm all for moving on (and it's about time they did something other than squabble about it) but why not build this penis thing somewhere else in lower manhattan? Why not just leave the site a hole, and turn it into a HUGE grassy tree lined park with memorials all throughout? It just seems more modest and peaceful to me.

To all those who think this will show the terrorists that "they have won" if we don't build something taller on the same site - I urge you to think about it...Wouldn't we be sending a much more modest, confident attitude by saying "Hey we actually care about those people - we can rebuild somewhere else, anywhere else, but we care about those people." Just a thought...
__________________
tackleberry is offline  
Old 04-27-2006, 03:40 PM   #8
BVS
Blue Crack Supplier
 
BVS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: between my head and heart
Posts: 40,697
Local Time: 11:50 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by U2democrat
It's better than a gaping hole, IMO
That's pretty much all I can say about it too.
__________________
BVS is offline  
Old 04-27-2006, 03:47 PM   #9
ONE
love, blood, life
 
Numb1075's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Tarrytown, NY
Posts: 11,382
Local Time: 12:50 PM
Tackleberry - where would you erect a building in lower manhattan? There's no room for anything else.
__________________
Numb1075 is offline  
Old 04-27-2006, 03:56 PM   #10
War Child
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: New York, NY, USA
Posts: 613
Local Time: 05:50 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by Numb1075
Tackleberry - where would you erect a building in lower manhattan? There's no room for anything else.
Farther east, or maybe even closer to Battery Park - or even any one of the sections where there are five or six commercial space areas in a row for sale.
__________________
tackleberry is offline  
Old 04-27-2006, 04:10 PM   #11
Blue Crack Addict
 
deep's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: A far distance down.
Posts: 28,501
Local Time: 09:50 AM
Quote:
"It is going to be a symbol of our freedom and independence," Gov. George Pataki said at a news conference on the ramp into the site, according to The Associated Press.

I think it is a good building.

The stake-holders have a right to rebuilt.

I imagine there is a need for the lost office space, so rebuild.


However, "a symbol of freedom and independence" ???

that is just a load of crap by one more politician exploiting 911 for personal gain
__________________
deep is offline  
Old 04-27-2006, 05:06 PM   #12
Rock n' Roll Doggie
Band-aid
 
ntalwar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 4,900
Local Time: 12:50 PM
I wonder what the occupancy rate will be. I think I read somewhere they had trouble getting a lot of tenants.

ETA: only 25% leased - it will be intersting to see how high that goes.
__________________
ntalwar is offline  
Old 04-27-2006, 05:52 PM   #13
The Fly
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: kingston, jamaica
Posts: 63
Local Time: 12:50 PM
Its nice.. but I think something much more modest should have been placed there.

IMO...9/11 was a serving of humble pie. It made the US realise that they are in fact vulnerable. A notion that was considered ludicrous before.

Something like a small commemorative park or something ...so that 100 years from now a 12 year old will ask his father "why is there an empty spot in the middle of manhattan?" Not be like "whoa nice building!

The park doesnt have to be overly simplistic, but it should still figuratively represent the grief of the families who lost loved one.

This new tower seems a bit of a touristy exploit with lots of business dollars pulling the strings.
__________________
djfeelgood is offline  
Old 04-27-2006, 05:57 PM   #14
Rock n' Roll Doggie
 
Se7en's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: all around in the dark - everywhere
Posts: 3,531
Local Time: 12:50 PM
how fucking lame. freedom and independence my ass. it's a symbol of economic dominance...plain and simple.
__________________
Se7en is offline  
Old 04-27-2006, 07:00 PM   #15
Blue Crack Addict
 
verte76's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: hoping for changes
Posts: 23,331
Local Time: 05:50 PM
I like it. I wonder what my sisters in Brooklyn think of it.
__________________

__________________
verte76 is offline  
 

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:50 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Design, images and all things inclusive copyright © Interference.com