A person with opposite politics but you adore/respect?

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I like John McCain, Colin Powell

I also get crushes on "regular guy" Republicans, but then I eventually come back to reality ;) :D

I had a momentary lapse of reason a few years back and had a crush on Sean Hannity :huh:
 
My Republican Congressman, Spencer Bachus. He's a terrific compassionate conservative. He supports debt relief and has worked with Bono. He's a really good guy. I also like John McCain.
 
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U2democrat said:
Nixon was brilliant...but he was also very corrupt.

As a historian I will agree that Nixon was a smart politician, but he actually was not "very corrupt" in the grand scheme of things. Yes, Watergate was a huge deal, but in terms of politics, this is nothing out of the ordinary. So many dirty deeds go on under the radar in politics....it's just that Nixon actually got caught. If he would have been indeed "brilliant," he would have destroyed all documentation(the audio tapes). Like I said, he did nothing out of the ordinary if you really research into presidential history, it's just that he got caught. A good example for recent times is the Lewinsky Scandal. It really wouldn't have been that big of deal, but Clinton obstructed justice by lying to a grand jury. Dumb move, but really no that out of the ordinary in politics--everyone knows that JFK and other presidents have had mistresses, but they never got caught.

Sad but true...you don't become the most powerful person in the world by being a nice guy in this day and age.
 
I agree, in the grand scheme of things Watergate was basically politics as usual. Nixon got caught. He wasn't quite clever enough to get away with politics as usual. You're right, you don't get to be the most powerful man in the world by being nice. You get to be basically by being aggressive as hell. Eisenhower got away with telling the press he had the flu when he'd actually had a bad heart attack! That's no longer possible.
 
I have to say that I respect Arnold Schwarzenegger, though I find his politics disagreeable, at best. I really do respect him, and his 'girly men' speech was the funniest thing on television since Blackadder. As for 'actual' politicians, well, I respected Nixon to a degree, much the same way that I respected Thatcher. That woman had more balls than her entire cabinet of men put together.

Ant.
 
Well, this isn't along the lines of what other people's responses, but my last boyfriend was a staunch conservative. I didn't agree with him on a lot of things, but we both were able to respect each other's opinions and discuss things without taking things personally. If anything, I learned a lot.

I have to also say one thing, here...I have found that sometimes, people with certain "leanings" find it hard to listen to the other side. And I KNOW it's difficult, I feel it's important. I feel it's have to know your opposition. I know a few people who just didn't bother to try to watch the Republican Convention because they "just weren't interested" enough and knew they would find it aggravating. I tried - I didn't make it all the way through, but I tried. I'm not better than my friends who didn't watch, but I feel I understand their position better and can make a more educated decision - and I can counter arguments better without taking things personally. I don't know....just my "two cents".
 
Wait...must be Hillary!:wink:

Well, I guess I respect that Obama guy in Illinois. He seems like a compassionate, smart worker for the people.
 
My best friend. I describe her politics as "uber-Republican" (she's still in mourning for Reagan ;) ) while I'm more of a conservative Democrat. I always accuse her of secretly being a WASP High Priestess...she accuses me of ruining the country with my past presidential votes. :huh: Oh well, all's fair in love & war, right? :up: :D
 
U.S. Senator Edward M. Kennedy :|


Attention: M.F. Wannabe
"Lieberman" is w/ one "n"
(not two "n"s as U put it)
Sen. Joe is openly Jewish!
 
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Tucker should tuck -- his tongue!

paxetaurora said:
Tucker Carlson... :drool:
Pax is right-on with this one. Tucker is a total phoney. He is simply a foil on the commercialized and highly-staged "Crossfire" (a show I stopped watching quite some time ago). Ducker Tucker is allegedly or used to be a "conservative". When recently asked on air for his prediction for the Presidential election outcome, he incredibly retorted: "KERRY -- by two points". What a political imbecile! Even IF he actually thought that (doubtful), he should have shut up. U can be sure real conservatives definitely don't like TC now. :drool:
 
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I don't even see the well defined difference these days between left and right, the entire ethos of the two seems to have switched with the so called "neo-cons", you know that the world has gone upside down when liberals start saying that some races are better off living under a despot and conservatives start saying that individual liberty is the principle tool for peace. I personally do not see myself as a right winger or conservative and my real friends in real life do not either, but here I think that I would probably be marked in the right - but then again this board is skewed. I am not a socialist though - not until the world has an absolute subsistence; being equally poor just isn't very attractive, libertarian is a loose fit.
 
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Very good point A_Wanderer. The thing about American politics is that it's not like the politics is in other democracies. In other countries you've got a real divide between the Labor/Social Democratic parties and the Conservatives/Christian Democrats. In the U.S. it is really more a matter of having two conservative parties, and one being more conservative than the other. That's why you do indeed have Democratic neo-cons and Republicans who are pro-choice. The distinction can get pretty blurred.
 
Stonewall, when Tucker called the election for Kerry, he was trying to be an honest journalist and not a partisan talking head. The reason why I dislike so damn many of the pundits is that they are second-rate intellects who are little more than talking heads for their parties and candidates. That obviously was not the scenario he really wanted, and he was probably pretty pleasantly surprised. It's nice to know at least one of these guys is really trying to keep his deal with the voters and inform them.
 
paxetaurora said:
Actually, regardless of politics, I just think he (Tucker Carlson) is tasty-looking.

That was a "drool" smiley.

:yes: He and I are buddies. Last year he took me backstage for my birthday:hyper:. We e-mail each other frequently, and is a really nice guy. Pax, if you think he's good looking, you ought to see him in person. WOW!!!!!!! I always feel faint when I'm talking to him. He is a REAL conservative. Actually, more of a libertarian except for the fact that he's pro-life. He admits that he's more of a libertarian than a republican. Dreadsox and A_Wanderer would appreciate that :wink:.

Anyway he's REALLY nice guy, smart, and gorgeous. Funny too. :drool:
 
Stonewall said:
Attention: M.F. Wannabe
"Lieberman" is w/ one "n"
(not two "n"s as U put it)
Sen. Joe is openly Jewish!
Sorry for misspelling his name. I can honestly say that when people called him "Loserman" I was mildly offended. I don't think he deserved it.
 
Macfistowannabe said:

Sorry for misspelling his name. I can honestly say that when people called him "Loserman" I was mildly offended. I don't think he deserved it.

I was too, actually. Joe Lieberman is one of the most fundamentally decent people I've ever seen in politics, period. He's no loser.
 
um...my wife, who I not only adore, but love dearly, she being a Berkley grad.

As for public figures, I would have voted for Dick Gephart had he won the Dem nomination. He would have been tuff on WOT, and had to work w/ a pub congress. Moreover I think he would have beat bush in a gen election.
 
Tucker gets the U-2 Board okay from all sides!

Now Hear This: U-2 Dem, Pax and Verte -- U all convinced me that Tuck is okay. I didn't catch that it was a positive "drool", Pax, I thought it was an ugh! drool. Kool! :wink:


Verte76 said:
Stonewall, when Tucker =predicted= the election for Kerry, he was trying to be an honest journalist and not a partisan talking head....

Verte, this happened on the NBC-TV Sunday morning "Chris Matthews Show" (preceding "Meet The Press") on Sun., Oct. 31, just two days before the election. There was a round table of four known political journalists. When Tucker Carlson made that unsupportive prediction, believe me, it even shocked the pros sitting with him. The host Chris Matthews stated: "I'm gonna save this tape!" Basically, the ones predicting Kerry 52/Bush 47 were with the DNC! For a conservative Republican to predict his candidate losing to a huge, national audience had to rile the Bush campaign and all Bush supporters --especially in a veryclose election. It really came off as very undermining and an omen of gloom for Bush. Chris' subsequent e-mails back that perception up big time.
 
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Stonewall, Tucker works for CNN, not the Republican Party. If they'd wanted a partisan Republican push, they could have called in the Bush campaign big shots. I can relate because I thought Bush was going to win. I didn't like this, but I had my reasons, and heck, I turned out to be right.
 
I'm sorry, but John Stewart is right. Crossfire is lame, as are those who are on it. That show has real potential to spark true debate, but it all comes down to spewing off pre-written political platforms. Whatever happened to geniune thought?
As for the question about a person you respect on the other side...I'd say my best friend Mo. He's a republican and i'm pracitically a socialist. And still, he and I can talk for hours about politics without ever getting angry. It seems that he and I always come to compromises that reflect both of our values. It would be so easy to fall in line with many liberals and say that republicans don't value the quality of human life....all republicans are stupid etc. My friendship though forces me to see things in a more complicated light. If only we all could be so fortunate to have a best friend on the "other side."
 
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