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Old 02-23-2005, 04:06 PM   #91
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Well, to clarify, men were to have orgasms without lust, because it served a function (in their eyes, men had "little people" and women just had the incubating waters; it served to demean women by saying that men were the sole creators of life). Women, however, were not to even look happy to be having sex.

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This reaction applies to your other post, too: yeow.

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Old 02-23-2005, 04:12 PM   #92
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I see what you're saying. That's one of the biggest problems with Christianity I think. People just don't like to think that people are condemned just because they didn't know any better. I would say they probably do know better, because they're consciences probably warn them,



but I can't speak for them because I'm not them.




I feel like I'm being attacked by a bunch of bandits. HELP

it is no fun being attacked

i appreciate that you probably live in an environment with like minded people.

where thinking like yours is condoned and validated


i hope you have an opportunity to live in different places and get exposed to different mind-sets on a first hand basis.

peace to you
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Well I'll be back to try to explain myself a little more, but you guys have exhausted me.

most likely because you have no argument, you just have a set of poorly substantiated inherited beliefs used to justify a silly, archaic prejudice.
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most likely because you have no argument, you just have a set of poorly substantiated inherited beliefs used to justify a silly, archaic prejudice.

Why thank you.
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it is no fun being attacked

i appreciate that you probably live in an environment with like minded people.

where thinking like yours is condoned and validated


i hope you have an opportunity to live in different places and get exposed to different mind-sets on a first hand basis.

peace to you

You're probably right in that the majority of people I deal with share some of my opinions.

I'm always open to looking at ideas with fresh perspectives, which is one reason I even ventured in to Free Your Mind. I know it gets intense in here sometimes. But yeah, I enjoy seeing other people's opinions because I know that I know almost nothing when it comes to exactly how the world works. Sometimes a change in perspective can be the most meaningful lesson.

I think it's clear, though, that you're not going to convince me right now and I'm not going to convince you, so I'm just going to let the debate rest.

Peace to you also!
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And I was so looking forward to you coming back with something to say.

i will have to let my rector, my bishop, and my congregation know they are not Christian.
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And I was so looking forward to you coming back with something to say.

i will have to let my rector, my bishop, and my congregation know they are not Christian.

It's not that they're not Christian. They're unrepentant Christians.
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Right, i will have to let them know while they are feeding the homeless......

Get of your judgemental seat.
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Now here's a concept that I KNOW will be unpopular here. I don't believe good works achieve salvation.
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But judging others is a sure way in.
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Start your own thread then....stop polluting mine.
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For example, and this is where the whole 'but Christians aren't any better than other religious people debate' would come in, a person belonging to some cult can help people, but that won't get him or here salvation.

Christians should and often do good works as thanksgiving for Jesus' sacrafice, but anyone can do them.
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But judging others is a sure way in.

NO. I'm not saying I don't have any problems. I'm just pointing out something that the Bible apparently indicates to be wrong.
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Start your own thread then....stop polluting mine.



This is exactly why I didn't want to come back and share some more thoughts. I'm sorry if you think I polluted your thread with judgmentalism. It's obvious that you're not accepting of different opinions. I'm ok with that.
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really, where?
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