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Old 04-21-2003, 02:42 PM   #1
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A movement to confiscate Michael Moore's recent Oscar?

I dont really agree w/this.
I say let Michael Moore contine to make an ass of himself.

Anyway the movement is located this website..

revoketheoscar.com
http://www.revoketheoscar.com/

The site claims the Moore's recent film is riddled with-
invented facts
fabricated events
staged scenes

so on and so forth,

and 'disqualifies' the film as actually being a documentary.

I dunno.
My life is to busy to worry about smug stars recieving awards for their so called art..

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Shades of McCarthyism yet again. You can't deny an artist recognition for his work just because you don't like his political opinions.

Although I especially like that it refers to Charlton Heston as "one of Hollywood's few upstanding men"
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I don't agree with it, either. I can't stand Michael Moore, but if people can give an award to a child molester, then Moore certainly shouldn't have his taken away because he made a fool of himself at the awards.

But I don't really care. I don't watch the Oscars cuz I don't give a crap about them. Hollywood is in its own little word of back-patting and self-glorification. That's one reason I don't go to many movies.
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But I don't really care. I don't watch the Oscars cuz I don't give a crap about them. Hollywood is in its own little word of back-patting and self-glorification.


Let him keep is little statue. It doesn't validate his beliefs or give them any more weight.

Movements like "revoketheoscar" are just silly.
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This is ridiculous. Oscars are just show biz awards. Who cares? So what if some people didn't like his acceptance speech. This is a complete waste of time and effort. If they want to support the troops or whatever there's a better way like signing the virtual thank you card.
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I htink anytime we can give him a forum to perform as he did, I am for it. It made for good entertainment.
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What a load of crap...don't they have anything better to do with their time?
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While I agree with them that Moore has never made a documentary in his life, and that he shouldn't have been in said category... he was placed in that category, the votes were cast, and he won. If Jethro Tull can win a hard rock Grammy, then I guess Michael Moore can win a documentary Oscar.
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It is a documentary. Documentaries have ceased to be in the realm of "realism" since the 1910s. Every time a cut is made, you have omitted a piece of reality and made a subjective interpretation of what is important. Michael Moore's film *does* fall under "documentary," because he uses real people and real situations. A realist documentary? Probably not. A formalist documentary? Yes.

I think this movement is silly. I guess right-wingers have too much time on their hands, between the Yahoo! message board trolling and this.

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Doc∑u∑men∑ta∑ry (adj)
1. Consisting of, concerning, or based on documents.
2. Presenting facts objectively without editorializing or inserting fictional matter, as in a book or film
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Doc∑u∑men∑ta∑ry (adj)
1. Consisting of, concerning, or based on documents.
2. Presenting facts objectively without editorializing or inserting fictional matter, as in a book or film
"Objectivity" and "facts" is an illusion. Look at a National Geographic documentary. Cuts are made. Narration is placed to give subjectively interpreted commentary. A span of several days, weeks, or months is shaved down to an hour at most. Who decides what is "important" and what isn't? A subjective individual.

But this goes into the realm of postmodern theory. Moore's film is probably best described as a postmodernist documentary--not fictional, as the people and situations are real, and not a documentary, as Moore influences the situations around him by his pre-determined agenda. Moore, undoubtedly, breaks most of the conventions of the traditional, realist documentary. However, it is still a documentary.

People aren't necessarily going to agree with me on this, and that's alright. I'm just arguing as to why this movement is silly, in my opinion.

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Doc∑u∑men∑ta∑ry (adj).
2. Presenting facts objectively without editorializing or inserting fictional matter, as in a book or film


can somebody from the left please define the word "is" please?

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can somebody from the left please define the word "is" please?

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diamond i believe we can find the answer to that age old question on this video tape...


and melon please, allow me to assist...


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