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View Poll Results: Will you accept the invitation and watch the Frontline/PBS special on Mormons?
Yes, I'm very curious and will watch it on 4/30 and 5/1 3 9.68%
Nope 8 25.81%
I may if I have time. 9 29.03%
Yes, I absolutely will. 1 3.23%
I won't watch it as I think the LDS/Mormons are a godless cult 2 6.45%
I have no opinion but will form an opinion after watching this on 4/30 and 5/1 0 0%
diamondbruno9, are you trying to sell us something? 9 29.03%
I plan to watch this and offer my thoughts after viewing this 1 3.23%
I will watch this to validate all of my fears about the LDS/Mormon religion. 2 6.45%
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Old 04-30-2007, 07:12 PM   #76
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We believe in Christ, but maybe not your understanding of Christ, and that we believe in Christ, worship the life of Christ and declare that all men should come to Christ -makes us Christians. When you say Mormons are not Christian, you come across as a unkind, intolerable, disingenious and UnChistian like.

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diamond, I understand that you're sincere in your faith. I respect that. The differences are worth bringing up though.
That said, have you read Galatians 1:6-10? The Bible itself is harsh with those who preach "a different Gospel." This is where the dialogue is important -- how do Mormons reconcile this statement, since you believe the Bible and the Book of Mormon? It's an honest question with no judgement intended.
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Old 04-30-2007, 08:43 PM   #77
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It's only a different Gospel to you and your understanding, but not God's understanding. The Book of Mormon and Bible are both testaments of Christ, they both testify of the divinity of Christ, something the world desparately needs in this day and age.

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Old 04-30-2007, 08:51 PM   #78
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This doesn't sound like a testament to Christ to me:

A. Questions about the Book of Mormon

total lack of archeological support
contradictions with other LDS scriptures
abundant plaigarism of the KJV Bible
key changes were made to the original version
curious similarities to contemporaneous works of fiction
confessions and defections of the other witnesses

B. Questions about Joseph Smith's credibility:

comparisons of himself to Jesus
contradictions in accounts of his first vision
his suspicious past and character
false prophecies he made
both sides of the story of his 'martydom' and early LDS persecution
Smith's reliability as a translator - the failed test of the Book of Abraham
Smith's 'inspired'version of the Bible

C. Questions about the integrity of other Mormon Prophets

major changes in Mormon doctrine and revelation
polygamy, role of blacks, blood atonement
deceptions by the LDS church
changes in prophecy
secret ceremonies and masonry
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Like I said before, I'm not raising concerns about Mormonism just because it's another religion, I'm raising concerns because it calls itself Christianity, when it's not. The differences between the two are worth discussing.
How many evangelicals still maintain that Catholics aren't Christians either? Because evangelicals of course are the final word on who is and isn't a Christian.
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So, the first part of the documentary is over.

What do people honestly think?
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How many evangelicals still maintain that Catholics aren't Christians either?

Too many, and the unorignal, repeated mantra by comeg in this thread is old already.

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I have a good Mormon friend and she stated to me once that she is not a Christian, she is a Mormon.
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I have a good Mormon friend and she stated to me once that she is not a Christian, she is a Mormon.
I find that hard to believe.

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So do I, actually. Although I disagree with them, I've always heard Mormons claim their Christians.
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So do I, actually. Although I disagree with them, I've always heard Mormons claim their Christians.
I am curious as to why exactly you believe Mormons are not Christian.
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Because they believe in things that aren't Christian. i.e. baptism to get into heaven, baptism of the dead, three seperate gods verses the tirune God, etc. Plus, I posted a list of concerns about the faith I have in my second comment on this page.
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I find that hard to believe.

Perhaps, but that's what she said. I'm not saying it was a belief held by the church.
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Because they believe in things that aren't Christian. i.e. baptism to get into heaven,
Err...I've heard of "orthodox" Christian denominations that believe you have to be baptised to get into heaven. Heck, some some of them are particular about the "kind" of baptism--sprinkling vs. immersion, for example (some Baptist types get all up in arms over that one!)

As for the documentary, there was nothing I haven't read about in various histories...no suprises!
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Yeah, well, that doesn't float with the Bible. Consider the criminal on the cross next to Christ who believed who he was saying he was and Christ said "You'll be with me in paradise." He wasn't baptised. All he did was believe. If you believe baptism is required, then you're saying Christ plays favorites or allows loopholes to random people. That doesn't jive with his character, as expressed throughout the Bible.
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it's fun getting to know Mormons and Mormonism, in the Biblical sense.
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