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View Poll Results: Will you accept the invitation and watch the Frontline/PBS special on Mormons?
Yes, I'm very curious and will watch it on 4/30 and 5/1 3 9.68%
Nope 8 25.81%
I may if I have time. 9 29.03%
Yes, I absolutely will. 1 3.23%
I won't watch it as I think the LDS/Mormons are a godless cult 2 6.45%
I have no opinion but will form an opinion after watching this on 4/30 and 5/1 0 0%
diamondbruno9, are you trying to sell us something? 9 29.03%
I plan to watch this and offer my thoughts after viewing this 1 3.23%
I will watch this to validate all of my fears about the LDS/Mormon religion. 2 6.45%
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Old 04-26-2007, 09:24 PM   #31
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It's most likely blemishes.

This is from http://www.leaderu.com/offices/micha...-problems.html , one of many, many sites that expose the issues with Mormonism.

These topics should be investigated by anyone who might be considering joining the LDS church.

A. Questions about the Book of Mormon

total lack of archeological support
contradictions with other LDS scriptures
abundant plaigarism of the KJV Bible
key changes were made to the original version
curious similarities to contemporaneous works of fiction
confessions and defections of the other witnesses

B. Questions about Joseph Smith's credibility:

comparisons of himself to Jesus
contradictions in accounts of his first vision
his suspicious past and character
false prophecies he made
both sides of the story of his 'martydom' and early LDS persecution
Smith's reliability as a translator - the failed test of the Book of Abraham
Smith's 'inspired'version of the Bible

C. Questions about the integrity of other Mormon Prophets

major changes in Mormon doctrine and revelation
polygamy, role of blacks, blood atonement
deceptions by the LDS church
changes in prophecy
secret ceremonies and masonry
Others are better qualified to comprehensively address these issue so I will simply point to other sources. Much useful material can be found on the Internet and a list of the sites that I have found most useful is given below.

Berean Christian Ministries -
Christian Apologetic and Research Ministry -
Christian Answers -
Mormonism Research Ministry -
Probe Ministries -
Reason -
Saints Alive -
Trust the Truth -
Utah Lighthouse Organization -
Watchman Ministries -
Word for the Weary -
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Old 04-26-2007, 11:11 PM   #32
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our favorite antimormon has entered the thread.

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Old 04-27-2007, 05:09 PM   #33
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And to counter balance websites created by those who are opposed to the LDS church, here is the offical site created for those who would like to learn more about the LDS religion:

http://beta.mormon.org/mormonorg/v/i...aRCRD&locale=0
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Truth restored?



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A. Questions about the Book of Mormon

total lack of archeological support
contradictions with other LDS scriptures
abundant plaigarism of the KJV Bible
key changes were made to the original version
curious similarities to contemporaneous works of fiction
confessions and defections of the other witnesses

B. Questions about Joseph Smith's credibility:

comparisons of himself to Jesus
contradictions in accounts of his first vision
his suspicious past and character
false prophecies he made
both sides of the story of his 'martydom' and early LDS persecution
Smith's reliability as a translator - the failed test of the Book of Abraham
Smith's 'inspired'version of the Bible

C. Questions about the integrity of other Mormon Prophets

major changes in Mormon doctrine and revelation
polygamy, role of blacks, blood atonement
deceptions by the LDS church
changes in prophecy
secret ceremonies and masonry

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Same rehashed tripe as the Church continues to grow and prosper thru out the world.

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Old 04-27-2007, 06:27 PM   #36
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Ordinarily I'd watch this kind of thing because I think it's interesting and generally valuable to learn about other religions. However, law school's done and I have ethanol-ic plans over the next few days. Booyah!!!

(I'd be a bad Mormon)
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Depends on whose numbers you're looking at.

The Mormon church always says it's growing, but when you look at it's actual numbers it's not.

According to the link below, it's even declining in Utah.

http://www.sltrib.com/ci_2886596
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Same rehashed tripe as the Church continues to grow and prosper thru out the world.

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That has nothing to do with facts or evidence; and it seems that objective observers don't find the evidence supports the claims being made.
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Old 04-27-2007, 06:50 PM   #40
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That has nothing to do with facts or evidence; and it seems that objective observers don't find the evidence supports the claims being made.
key word-objective, regardless most atheists would agree with you, so you're in good company

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The reporter with The Salt Lake Tribune seems pretty objective.
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yeah right.

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somewhere in between

diamondbruno9, are you trying to sell us something?

and

I won't watch it as I think the LDS/Mormons are a godless cult
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I will never like Mormonism, because it is a hopelessly homophobic religion.

That aside, I get a great chuckle when conservative Christians start bashing this religion, because it starts turning into a hissy fit of "mythic speech."

Sure, I wouldn't doubt that Joseph Smith ripped off of the KJV en masse, but, from a scholarly POV, you can argue that the Bible rips off of everything from the Sumerians/Babylonians to the Egyptians to the Persians. Judeo-Christianity is most interesting, particularly because it's a mixture of ancient Semitic (the "angry God" of the OT) and Indo-European (the concept of the Messiah, Armageddon, angelology, demonology) beliefs.

In the end, it all boils down to faith.
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A lot of you shouldn't have voted as the invitation was only offered to those of a certain mental caliber and character, however that the thread has generated some interest the ends justify the means.

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