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View Poll Results: Will you accept the invitation and watch the Frontline/PBS special on Mormons?
Yes, I'm very curious and will watch it on 4/30 and 5/1 3 9.68%
Nope 8 25.81%
I may if I have time. 9 29.03%
Yes, I absolutely will. 1 3.23%
I won't watch it as I think the LDS/Mormons are a godless cult 2 6.45%
I have no opinion but will form an opinion after watching this on 4/30 and 5/1 0 0%
diamondbruno9, are you trying to sell us something? 9 29.03%
I plan to watch this and offer my thoughts after viewing this 1 3.23%
I will watch this to validate all of my fears about the LDS/Mormon religion. 2 6.45%
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Old 05-10-2007, 05:20 PM   #151
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Stalin was a Marxist (Communist)
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and I don't know too many Communists/Marxist leaders that profess a divine belief or faith in Christ.

Many would argue that Christ's teachings were very marxist like.
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Old 05-10-2007, 05:21 PM   #152
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Some interesting Mormon related press coming soon:

http://www.septemberdawn.net/

This should be interesting. Has quite a few Mormons up in arms, so to speak.
I heard someone else talking about this just the other day, anybody know what the big controversy is?
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I guess there are different versions of this story.


What is the Alamo?

Just a bunch of trespassers, occupiers or insurgents getting their just desserts?
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I heard someone else talking about this just the other day, anybody know what the big controversy is?
Well, according to the PBS documentary, it was said to be Brigham Young who ordered the killings. Am I wrong?
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Well, according to the PBS documentary, it was said to be Brigham Young who ordered the killings. Am I wrong?
Well I've heard the movie takes the stance that Young did order the killings, but apparently that's why so many Mormons are upset with it because their stance is he didn't. I'll be honest and say I'm not really well verse on the subject, so I'm not sure.
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No Bringham Young did not order the killings, on the contrary, he tried to prevent them, there is evidence of this.

Later on he made sure the perpetuators of this event (local settlers) be brought to justice and made sure the leader of the massacare, David Lee be put to death by firing squad.

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Later on he made sure the perpetuators of this event (local settlers) be brought to justice and made sure the leader of the massacare, David Lee be put to death by firing squad.

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And there are some who still insist that John D. Lee was a fallguy.
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No Bringham Young did not order the killings, on the contrary, he tried to prevent them, there is evidence of this.

Later on he made sure the perpetuators of this event (local settlers) be brought to justice and made sure the leader of the massacare, David Lee be put to death by firing squad.

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Mormons on that documentary even said he did though. That one guy said it was sad.

And yes, David Lee Roth should be shot by a firing squad.
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And yes, David Lee Roth should be shot by a firing squad.
More of a Sammy Hagar fan, then?
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Actually, not a Van Halen fan at all.
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I don't know who was LDS or who wasn't in the PBS documentary, and thru it all in the MMM portion it's all opinon voiced by talking heads, some LDS some anti LDS.


Regardless of how the tragedy unfolded, it was a dark day in my church's history. The Church has built a memorial to the victims and issued a public apology.

I can't fathom Bringham Young ordering the slaughter of innocent human beings, and I never will. ioojiioj

One day we'll all have the answers to questions like these.

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This is why ordinary people are very uncomfortable with Evangelicals:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=55642

Bill Keller slams Christians who understand God and Christ differently than him, he salms Oprah, he slams Mormons.


"If you vote for Mitt Romney, you are voting for Satan!" he writes in his daily devotional to be sent out to 2.4 million e-mail subscribers tomorrow"


"I have watched in horror over the past weeks as one evangelical Christian leader after another has either endorsed, supported, or just as bad, refused to denounce Romney's run for the White House and those Christian leaders who support him," Keller writes. "Last weekend Pat Robertson, founder of CBN and Regent University, had Romney deliver the keynote address to the graduates of Regent. Regent is one of the great Christian colleges in this nation, and Robertson allowed this cult member to deliver the commencement address. Is he out of his mind? Do you think there would ever be a true Gospel preacher giving the commencement address at Brigham Young?"

Listening to his IPOD cast I do not see or hear any Christ like attributes in his demeanor or conduct, I did see a Jimmy Swaggart type - a self promoting bible thumper with high aspirations.

Keller was a businessman convicted of insider trading in 1989, a crime for which he served more than two years in federal prison. After getting out, he received a degree in biblical studies from Liberty University in Lynchburg, Virginia, and has been in full-time ministry ever since

Judge for yourself, it's all hear and speaks volumes-loudly for that matter.

http://www.liveprayer.com/

This fellow is a real gem.
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