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Old 11-14-2004, 06:37 PM   #61
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Gay marriage is asking for another 9/11 because it should never be an issue that represents our country. It's unnatural, God didn't design men for men and vise versa.

i was just about to type "this is the most offensive thing i have ever read on FYM" but then i thought better of it.

macfisto is right: it is precisely because we have a large portion of the population that believes that homosexuals are human beings (women, too), this is why some of them want to kill us. in our modern, secular, tolerant society, acknoweldging and embraces all the (god-given ... clearly, god made gay people, trust me on this one) wonderful diversity and variety that comprises any society. the men who attacked this country see the freedom that gay people have here as one of the central reasons for their hatred. in this twisted perversion of Islam, these monsters believe that gay men and women deserve to be tortured and executed in hideous fashion. thank God the gays fought back so well:

take Mark Bingham, one of the heros of Flight 93, was a homosexual. he was also a 6'5" big, burly, ballsy rugby player who probably stormed the cockpit and prevented that plane from crashing into the Capitol.

and Christians, especially Catholics, would do well to remember Mychal Judge, an openly gay Catholic priest who served the men and women of the NYFD. revered by a macho subulture, fearless and strong, a man of faith and fervor, Father Mychal died in the WTC doing what he has always done - tending to his flock in need. both bingham and Judge are American heroes, who are also gay.
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Old 11-14-2004, 06:41 PM   #62
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i was just about to type "this is the most offensive thing i have ever read on FYM" but then i thought better of it.
I hope this is going to be the last ten times I have to say this:

I cleared the heat on that post long ago. I stated my case after I got my first reply.

I cleared the heat on that post long ago. I stated my case after I got my first reply.

I cleared the heat on that post long ago. I stated my case after I got my first reply.

I cleared the heat on that post long ago. I stated my case after I got my first reply.

I cleared the heat on that post long ago. I stated my case after I got my first reply.

I cleared the heat on that post long ago. I stated my case after I got my first reply.

I cleared the heat on that post long ago. I stated my case after I got my first reply.

I cleared the heat on that post long ago. I stated my case after I got my first reply.

I cleared the heat on that post long ago. I stated my case after I got my first reply.

I cleared the heat on that post long ago. I stated my case after I got my first reply.

There you have it.
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Old 11-14-2004, 06:42 PM   #63
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I hope this is going to be the last ten times I have to say this:

I cleared the heat on that post long ago. I stated my case after I got my first reply.

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hey, i was agreeing with you! they hate us because (many) of us love us gays!
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If having gay marriage makes mass murdering religious zealots angry then how on earth can it possibly be a bad thing?
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If having gay marriage makes mass murdering religious zealots angry then how on earth can it possibly be a bad thing?




i can think of no better way to celebrate being american and pissing off the mass murdering religious zealots than to go have me some crazycrazycrazy gay sex! and then drink some alcohol! and then watch reality TV!


just a joke, people. just a joke.
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If having gay marriage makes mass murdering religious zealots angry then how on earth can it possibly be a bad thing?
Look at the Radical Islamic Extremists. If we can't use war, and if we can't expose the positive side of America, what should we do to prevent attacks?

The gay marriage issue is something we should put on hold until we make peace with the rest of the world. It's so divisive, and we don't need divisive issues to divide our country right now. How about issues that can unite the country?
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I have looked at the Islamists, I have read their speaches and declarations of war make no mistake about this threat it is very large. There is no room for appeasement in this, what you are advocating is appeasement. The road to dhimmitude is flanked by those who would make their own societies more pallatable to the extremists.

You want to prevent attacks, then overhall your domestic law enforcement and restructure the foreign intelligence agencies, break down the beaurocratic brick walls. Then you must use your millitary to strike at your enemies overseas, even using the honey-pot principle in Iraq. At the same time reciognise the instability inherent in any dictatorial regime and work to undermine such terror sponsering regimes, then use every tool in America's arsenal to liberalise the Arab world. This will not happen overnight, it will be long and tough and people will die, but in the end it is the better solution than waiting to be stuck big time and then unleashing the tragic response.

Attempting to staple Gay Marriage, Pornography or Abortion into the GWOT is dishonest at best.
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I am so with you on this A_Wanderer.
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It's not about bigotry or homophobia. It's about a belief system based on the Bible (and yes, that makes it a theological discussion).
As nice as that sounds, if you're making bigoted and homophobic statements then the fact that you claim they are based on the Bible does not make them any less bigoted.

Would a discussion of whether Black people deserve the same rights be immune from accusations of racism if people claimed to base it on the Bible?
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Am I making bigoted and homophobic statements?

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I am so with you on this A_Wanderer.
Same.
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Am I making bigoted and homophobic statements?

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oh please. MadelynIris was clearly referring to the collective "you."
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Would a discussion of whether Black people deserve the same rights be immune from accusations of racism if people claimed to base it on the Bible?
Wizzy!

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Irvine511,

I think you meant FizzingWizzbees, not MadelynIris.


So, if I say that I don't think that the gay lifestyle is something to be celebrated, based on my beliefs, derived from the Bible, am I a homophobe.

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Am I making bigoted and homophobic statements?

Mark
No, you're not. You are free to believe that homosexuality is an abomination, and not of god. The bible strongly supports it, and secularists hate god because of this, or claim that the bible is very inaccurate. Nobody should ever claim that the truth will not offend anyone, whether you're for gay issues or against them.

The real homophobics are those who commit hate crimes against gays.
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