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Old 11-08-2007, 10:53 PM   #16
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The calculus must be that is of secondary concern to fleeing.
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Old 11-09-2007, 12:31 AM   #17
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After reading a little more about this device, I don't think its main goal is to inflict pain--rather to A) protect the woman from diseases and pregnancy and B) force the rapist to go to a hospital, where he can then be turned over to the police. The hooks apparently don't actually sink in until the man withdraws, but once in supposedly can't be removed without a doctor's help. Obviously it would also cause pain--which, it's hoped, would give the woman an opportunity to safely flee--but it doesn't per se "prevent" rape.

But rape being a crime of power and sadism to begin with, I'm not sure the potential benefits of this device outweigh the risks. In a situation where the man has a gun, or a gang rape situation, I'd worry this would only increase the chances of the woman getting beaten or shot in 'retaliation'. It also sounds like it would probably be quite easy for a rapist to avail himself of any one of various common objects that could be inserted first as a 'safety,' thus enabling him to easily remove the device (which, again, I'd worry might then incline him to be even more vicious with the assault). And as Sue indicated, the device would be of no help with anal rape.

Still, the mere idea of it being readily available and fairly inexpensive (though you can only wear each one up to 24 hours, which might make it too expensive for some women) presumably has some deterrent effect all by itself. I'm just not sure whether whatever potential it has to make these situations even more dangerous is 'made up for' by that.
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Old 11-09-2007, 08:26 AM   #18
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Old 11-11-2007, 03:00 PM   #19
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But the problem is, how does this stop anyone from beating or shooting the girl for retaliation?
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Old 11-11-2007, 04:58 PM   #20
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This story's fairly old news.

Anyhow, I think it's meant to work more as a deterrent, at least to repeat offenders. If a rapist has a run-in with one of those, I doubt they would want to push their luck again if the thing is well-marketed and very public.
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Old 11-11-2007, 06:38 PM   #21
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But the problem is, how does this stop anyone from beating or shooting the girl for retaliation?
Dunno, but that's a chance I bet some are willing to take. Same as carrying mace in a purse, holding your sharpest car key a little tighter when you see a shadow behind you..... I'm not paranoid by any means, but there are times that I've been afraid of being out alone, simply b/c I was alone in the dark and I am a woman. I can't imagine that getting beaten or shot would be much worse than being raped.
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Dunno, but that's a chance I bet some are willing to take. Same as carrying mace in a purse, holding your sharpest car key a little tighter when you see a shadow behind you..... I'm not paranoid by any means, but there are times that I've been afraid of being out alone, simply b/c I was alone in the dark and I am a woman. I can't imagine that getting beaten or shot would be much worse than being raped.
But my point was, wouldn't mace or something along those lines be much more effective? With mace you can at temporarily blind your attacker and have a chance to run. With this it pretty much seems like you allow the attack to happen, plus you put the man in pain and really piss him off, doesn't sound like an effective combination to me.
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It would be more effective here in North America, though mace is illegal in some places (I do not carry mace, only know this b/c many dog owners carry it b/c their dogs have been attacked by dogs at large). However, I'm guessing it's more expensive than the condom and a lot less discreet. In some cultures, women don't have the freedom or the opportunity to get or carry mace or any weapon.
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If it's vengeance, then so be it. As for bvs's question, if you have hooks embedded in your willy, is your priority the woman you are attacking, or to preserve your in-pain penis? It would potentially buy that few moments of time where the woman can either escape, or incapacitate him by whatever means necessary so that she can then escape.
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I'm all for protecting women from rape, but I have to agree that this device just seems to carry the potential for further enraging a man (or men) that's already dangerous. Rape is about power & humiliation - and I'm sure that a woman (particularly in countries where she's hardly more than property) having the audacity to try & inflict some humiliation back onto her perpetrator would only serve to further convince him that she needed 'a lesson'.

I don't know what the answer is. I just pray that I nor any of my loved ones ever find themselves in the situation.
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Old 11-12-2007, 12:23 AM   #26
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With this it pretty much seems like you allow the attack to happen, plus you put the man in pain and really piss him off, doesn't sound like an effective combination to me.
The thing is, the situation is so bad, the rape so common, that you're looking at this from the wrong perspective. Can you only imagine how bad it is that this is proposed as a solution?
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Old 11-13-2007, 04:12 AM   #27
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words fail me.
I have a feeling words will fail a lot of guys upon contact with this device.
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The thing is, the situation is so bad, the rape so common, that you're looking at this from the wrong perspective. Can you only imagine how bad it is that this is proposed as a solution?
Believe me I know the statistics are sickening. I just think a more proactive solution to allow females to empower themselves would be more productive. The fact that this even has to be invented is horrific.
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Old 11-15-2007, 11:33 AM   #29
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I actually like the idea in combination with giving these women more power to protect themselves.

She should be allowed to immediately deprive him of certain..equipment..immediately. I know this wouldn't actually prevent him from raping again using something else, but I imagine many guys would think twice if they knew they'd be immediately Bobbited for this behavior, if the woman can manage it.
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on one hand I think it's kind of a good idea.....on the other I would feel really really bad for the poor chump that "hooks up" with an old girlfriend or something after a drunken night out and she um...forgets she's got it....on? in?

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