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Old 01-31-2006, 05:21 PM   #1
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Gov. Kaine: 'There's a better way'

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ARLINGTON, Virginia (AP) -- Virginia Gov. Timothy M. Kaine, tapped to deliver the State of the Union response for Democrats, has sharp words for both parties in Washington: Stop being so partisan, negative and irrelevant. "There's a better way," he said Monday.
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I posted that here

http://forum.interference.com/showth...5&pagenumber=2


Tonight's his big night!!!!!!!
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I thought his basic statement was worth repeating: "Stop being so partisan, negative and irrelevant."
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He's a very blunt guy, doesn't hold back his feelings the way many politicians do. He should have good stuff to say tonight
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i forget who said this:

"Oh FINALLY it feels SO good to be a Democrat. I love being partisan "

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You got me

I do love being a partisan democrat and there's a time and place for it. Right now in washington the partisan tone is just ridiculous on both sides.
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I thought his basic statement was worth repeating: "Stop being so partisan, negative and irrelevant."
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Unfortunately I think the most vocal members of the right think anything short of total capitulation or at the very least silence is partisan, negative and irrelevant. That being said, the Democrats have just about lost me not due to their opposition, but with the tedious, idiotic, ball-less, disorganized, visionless, pandering and leaderless presentation.

What a weak fucking opposition. Right now I respect the Republican moderates infinitely more than the Democrat "leadership."
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I think you'll see that Tim Kaine sure as hell isn't "tedious, idiotic, ball-less, disorganized, visionless, pandering and leaderless." He's a different breed. Perfect? No, but at this stage in the game he actually won, something we Dems haven't been doing lately. There's a lot to learn from him.
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I'll listen, but I'm not willing to take your word for it just yet. That being said, he is a state leader and not a national voice as of yet so is unimportant to me for now. Maybe he's the future. But he's not the present.
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I'll listen, but I'm not willing to take your word for it just yet. That being said, he is a state leader and not a national voice as of yet so is unimportant to me for now. Maybe he's the future. But he's not the present.
I agree he's not a national voice, the frustrating thing is, and has been the last 6 years, the democrats haven't really had a national voice. That's no fault of Tim's, but perhaps he can help. I hope he is the future, he's got a lot of potential (and I want to work for him for several years to come!). Keep an open mind as you watch tonight. If he doesn't impress you I'm sorry, but I'm damn proud to have worked for him and to know him, and I'll always support him as long as he stays true to himself (as corny as that sounds)
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Oh, my mind's always open. I won't be making any decision on him tonight however. But I'll keep an eye on him over the long haul. I used to be a Young Democrat myself.
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My hope for him is he'll run for senate after his term as gov. Right now in VA we've got to defeat George Allen, then get Gov. Warner elected in '08, then Kaine's time will come. The reasons he was chosen this year are a) He actually won a race in a red state (and he's a liberal by VA standards) b) The dems don't want to pick a "favorite" for '08 to make the speech as of now c) They wanted someone outside congress. Seems smart to me
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Usual strategy to bring in a newcomer. Not a bad idea to bring in a moderate. Maybe your Warner will do well. An up and comer who doesn't have Hilary's baggage. I just get tired of politician's words. I rarely listen to the speeches. I just watch where they take their fights, what real ideas they have, and what compromises I think they will make, whether I see their integrity at least balancing out their political pandering. You know beyond the rhetoric. As a campaign worker, I heard a lot of speeches. I'm immune.
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I'm gonna see Gov. Kaine and Ed Rendell a week from saturday actually...Rendell's coming as a keynote speaker to a big fundraising dinner. I'm not really looking forward to seeing him, as in years past when the speakers have been Joe Biden, Kerry/Edwards/Clark/Sharpton, Kerry, etc. Oh well, I'll just chat it up with Gov. Kaine the way I usually do
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