935 lies - U2 Feedback

Go Back   U2 Feedback > Lypton Village > Free Your Mind > Free Your Mind Archive
Click Here to Login
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 01-22-2008, 10:17 PM   #1
ONE
love, blood, life
 
financeguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Ireland
Posts: 10,122
Local Time: 06:38 AM
935 lies

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080123/...mation_study_4


"WASHINGTON - A study by two nonprofit journalism organizations found that President Bush and top administration officials issued hundreds of false statements about the national security threat from Iraq in the two years following the 2001 terrorist attacks. "

"The study was posted Tuesday on the Web site of the Center for Public Integrity, which worked with the Fund for Independence in Journalism. White House spokesman Scott Stanzel said he could not comment on the study because he had not seen it.

The study counted 935 false statements in the two-year period. It found that in speeches, briefings, interviews and other venues, Bush and administration officials stated unequivocally on at least 532 occasions that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction or was trying to produce or obtain them or had links to al-Qaida or both.

"It is now beyond dispute that Iraq did not possess any weapons of mass destruction or have meaningful ties to al-Qaida," according to Charles Lewis and Mark Reading-Smith of the Fund for Independence in Journalism staff members, writing an overview of the study. "In short, the Bush administration led the nation to war on the basis of erroneous information that it methodically propagated and that culminated in military action against Iraq on March 19, 2003."

Named in the study along with Bush were top officials of the administration during the period studied: Vice President Dick Cheney, national security adviser Condoleezza Rice, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, Secretary of State Colin Powell, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz and White House press secretaries Ari Fleischer and Scott McClellan.

Bush led with 259 false statements, 231 about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and 28 about Iraq's links to al-Qaida, the study found. That was second only to Powell's 244 false statements about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and 10 about Iraq and al-Qaida."
__________________

__________________
financeguy is offline  
Old 01-22-2008, 10:58 PM   #2
Rock n' Roll Doggie
VIP PASS
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: London/Sydney
Posts: 6,608
Local Time: 06:38 AM
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
__________________

__________________
Earnie Shavers is offline  
Old 01-22-2008, 10:59 PM   #3
ONE
love, blood, life
 
A_Wanderer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: The Wild West
Posts: 12,518
Local Time: 03:38 PM
The same lies that justified Desert Fox?
__________________
A_Wanderer is offline  
Old 01-22-2008, 11:44 PM   #4
Rock n' Roll Doggie
 
BrownEyedBoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: San Pedro Sula, Honduras
Posts: 3,510
Local Time: 11:38 PM
Wasn't Clinton real close to getting impeached over ONE lie on a PERSONAL matter?
__________________
BrownEyedBoy is offline  
Old 01-23-2008, 12:09 AM   #5
Rock n' Roll Doggie
VIP PASS
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: London/Sydney
Posts: 6,608
Local Time: 06:38 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by BrownEyedBoy
Wasn't Clinton real close to getting impeached over ONE lie on a PERSONAL matter?
That was sex (dirty, disgusting), this is war (freedom, liberty).

Bill Clinton getting a blow job and lying about it brought shame to the White House. George Bush launching a war for economic gain on the back of lies made believable only by a recent national tragedy brought honour back to the White House.
__________________
Earnie Shavers is offline  
Old 01-23-2008, 06:48 PM   #6
Rock n' Roll Doggie
 
the iron horse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: in a glass of CheerWine
Posts: 3,252
Local Time: 12:38 AM
Good post financeguy,


I did not vote for George Bush
and have continued to be puzzled as to why my so called conservative friends can't see the truth about him and his administration.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and POWER

He is not a conservative and far from the principles of a libertarian.




"I keep my eyes wide open all the time."

~Johnny Cash
__________________
the iron horse is offline  
Old 01-23-2008, 07:40 PM   #7
ONE
love, blood, life
 
financeguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Ireland
Posts: 10,122
Local Time: 06:38 AM
Well said there, Iron Horse.
__________________
financeguy is offline  
Old 01-23-2008, 09:52 PM   #8
Rock n' Roll Doggie
 
coemgen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Black and White Town
Posts: 3,962
Local Time: 12:38 AM
Gosh, guys. He's still below 1,000 lies.

Give him a break.
__________________
coemgen is offline  
Old 01-24-2008, 01:23 AM   #9
Blue Crack Addict
 
DaveC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: illegitimi non carborundum
Posts: 17,415
Local Time: 12:38 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by coemgen
Gosh, guys. He's still below 1,000 lies.

Give him a break.
But he's at 3,931 lives.

No break.

__________________
DaveC is offline  
Old 01-24-2008, 02:03 AM   #10
Blue Crack Addict
 
the rockin edge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: tomorrow's just an excuse away
Posts: 26,816
Local Time: 11:38 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by coemgen
Gosh, guys. He's still below 1,000 lies.

Give him a break.
those are just lies related to iraq, if we were talking total lies i don't know if the number would fit in one post.
__________________
the rockin edge is offline  
Old 01-24-2008, 09:48 AM   #11
She's the One
 
martha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Orange County and all over the goddamn place
Posts: 42,338
Local Time: 09:38 PM
But they were lies of bravery.
__________________
martha is offline  
Old 01-24-2008, 08:05 PM   #12
Rock n' Roll Doggie
Band-aid
 
2861U2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: watching the Cubs
Posts: 4,255
Local Time: 12:38 AM
Re: 935 lies

Quote:
Originally posted by financeguy
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080123/...mation_study_4


"WASHINGTON - A study by two nonprofit journalism organizations found that President Bush and top administration officials issued hundreds of false statements about the national security threat from Iraq in the two years following the 2001 terrorist attacks. "

"The study was posted Tuesday on the Web site of the Center for Public Integrity, which worked with the Fund for Independence in Journalism. White House spokesman Scott Stanzel said he could not comment on the study because he had not seen it.

The study counted 935 false statements in the two-year period. It found that in speeches, briefings, interviews and other venues, Bush and administration officials stated unequivocally on at least 532 occasions that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction or was trying to produce or obtain them or had links to al-Qaida or both.

"It is now beyond dispute that Iraq did not possess any weapons of mass destruction or have meaningful ties to al-Qaida," according to Charles Lewis and Mark Reading-Smith of the Fund for Independence in Journalism staff members, writing an overview of the study. "In short, the Bush administration led the nation to war on the basis of erroneous information that it methodically propagated and that culminated in military action against Iraq on March 19, 2003."

Named in the study along with Bush were top officials of the administration during the period studied: Vice President Dick Cheney, national security adviser Condoleezza Rice, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, Secretary of State Colin Powell, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz and White House press secretaries Ari Fleischer and Scott McClellan.

Bush led with 259 false statements, 231 about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and 28 about Iraq's links to al-Qaida, the study found. That was second only to Powell's 244 false statements about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and 10 about Iraq and al-Qaida."
First off, all of those "lies" were related to one of two statements- that Iraq had WMDs or that they had ties to Al-Qaeda.

I wonder if this "study" includes Clinton, Reid, Kennedy, Gore, and all the other Democrats who believed Saddam was a threat and needed to be disarmed. Almost everyone believed that Saddam had WMDs, but to call them liars or to suggest that any of their statements were "lies" is.... well, just that: a lie. Making a statement based on bad intelligence is NOT a "lie."

Oh, and I'm pretty sure this "nonprofit study" didn't do too bad with George Soros funding it.
__________________
2861U2 is offline  
Old 01-24-2008, 08:31 PM   #13
She's the One
 
martha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Orange County and all over the goddamn place
Posts: 42,338
Local Time: 09:38 PM
__________________
martha is offline  
Old 01-24-2008, 08:42 PM   #14
Rock n' Roll Doggie
Band-aid
 
2861U2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: watching the Cubs
Posts: 4,255
Local Time: 12:38 AM
I'm just saying, I've heard no one in the media mention that Soros is behind this study, and I've heard no one say that some Democrats in Congress (including some currently running for president) made those exact same statements. Is it really that much trouble to slip in those little details? Unless they don't want to for some reason, but that's unfathomable....


By the way, there's a difference between a statement that is later proven false and a lie.
__________________
2861U2 is offline  
Old 01-24-2008, 09:05 PM   #15
Blue Crack Supplier
 
Irvine511's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 30,499
Local Time: 12:38 AM
Re: Re: 935 lies

Quote:
Originally posted by 2861U2


I wonder if this "study" includes Clinton, Reid, Kennedy, Gore, and all the other Democrats who believed Saddam was a threat and needed to be disarmed. Almost everyone believed that Saddam had WMDs, but to call them liars or to suggest that any of their statements were "lies" is.... well, just that: a lie. Making a statement based on bad intelligence is NOT a "lie."


yes, but none of them thought that either intelligence claim was worth going to war over, now did they.
__________________

__________________
Irvine511 is online now  
 

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:38 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Design, images and all things inclusive copyright © Interference.com