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Old 03-16-2007, 07:05 PM   #61
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Ah, I see

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On the media thing, we must blame our selves and the media for over sexualization and views of men and woman. We want more and more they give, kids, teens adults watch the programming with then get's syphoned into the world.
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On the media thing, we must blame our selves and the media for over sexualization and views of men and woman. We want more and more they give, kids, teens adults watch the programming with then get's syphoned into the world.
What do you mean by over sexualization? And views of men and women? Any specifics?
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Old 03-16-2007, 07:13 PM   #64
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An example of Over Sexualization would be the Dolce Ad's or those dolls they sell in store now that make the dolls look like hookers.

If people see an advertisment with sexual inuendos and people go out and buy it, then the company will then start to go for younger crowds.
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An example of Over Sexualization would be the Dolce Ad's or those dolls they sell in store now that make the dolls look like hookers.

If people see an advertisment with sexual inuendos and people go out and buy it, then the company will then start to go for younger crowds.
I have no clue what you are talking about with the dolls, out of my life's demographic. Don't have kids or nieces yet...

I saw very little sex in the Dolce ad to be honest. I've seen much more sexual ads, but are these ads being put in kid's magazines?

I'm still not seeing your point.
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The Bratz dolls.

No but they do put other stuff in there. I will find some and scan them and post.
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I have no clue what you are talking about with the dolls, out of my life's demographic. Don't have kids or nieces yet...

Having kids definitely changes your perspective.
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The Bratz dolls.

No but they do put other stuff in there. I will find some and scan them and post.
Do these dolls perform sexual acts or something, I'm not getting it?
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Having kids definitely changes your perspective.
I'm sure it does, but I'm more than capable of being empathetic.
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They are just one example, but Justin isn't wrong here.

Kids programmes and toys nowadays really are sometimes a bit off.
It's not only the sex, but also quite often the violence shown in some of todays children movies which is very questionable.

But look at these dolls. The proportions of their bodies for example.
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They are just one example, but Justin isn't wrong here.

Kids programmes and toys nowadays really are sometimes a bit off.
It's not only the sex, but also quite often the violence shown in some of todays children movies which is very questionable.

But look at these dolls. The proportions of their bodies for example.
I agree with the violence.

But was Barbie, or Looney Tunes any less guilty of being violent or "well proportioned".
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Probably not.

But the way the "violence" was shown in Looney Tunes or Tom & Jerry was somehow different.

And these Bratz dolls really are all about having a perfect body, too perfect I would say, and also their clothing and their looks, these huge lips and eyes, are different from what Barbie looked like.
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But the way the "violence" was shown in Looney Tunes or Tom & Jerry was somehow different.
By somehow different, I'm assuming you mean unrealistic, which is true. Those shows lacked realistic violence.
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They are just one example, but Justin isn't wrong here.

Kids programmes and toys nowadays really are sometimes a bit off.
I agree. I've never seen those Bratz girls before. Sheesh, when I was little I idolized Punky Brewster and Laura Ingalls.

But, like BVS said before (I think), the media gives us what we want. So, enough parents must think those Bratz kids are OK toys for their little girls, otherwise they would be advertising.
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By somehow different, I'm assuming you mean unrealistic, which is true. Those shows lacked realistic violence.
Yeah, that's a pretty good explanation.

It's right, the market is there, otherwise they wouldn't produce it.

And the parents are of course responsible for what they let their kids watch or play with.
They just have to learn to say stop, and show their children the limits.

These companies are just producing what sells best and don't care about anything else than money.
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