diamond
ONE love, blood, life
that gw is still a hubba hubba man
Boston01 said:"Understanding Tax Cuts"
by: David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D
The next night the tenth man didn't show up for dinner,
so the nine sat down and ate without him. But when it
came time to pay the bill, they discovered something
important. They didn't have enough money between
all of them for even half of the bill!
And that, boys and girls, journalists and college
professors, is how our tax system works. The
people who pay the highest taxes get the most
benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much,
attack them for being wealthy, and they just may
not show up anymore. In fact, they might start
eating overseas where the atmosphere is
somewhat friendlier.
David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D
Professor of Economics
University of Georgia
Grand Canyon?whenhiphopdrovethebigcars said:Yes, I love America, man. It´s a great country. It pissed me off in various ways, but anyway its great. Especially for all the nature you got. New Orleans was just amazing. Grand Canyon the same.
You should vote Kerry, diamond.
whenhiphopdrovethebigcars said:Do you mean that many Americans are the opinion that consensus building is not for the good of the interests of their own nation?
whenhiphopdrovethebigcars said:I have another question - haven´t heard a "conservative reply" on this one: what about the American aspirations to be the "Leader of the Free World"? I spoke with Americans who openly told me that I, as a European, should thank America for invading Iraq, because that nation was a threat to all the world etc. etc.; Europeans shopuld be thankful that America makes the world a safer place (which I doubt seriously, mind you! but lets stick to the topic).
If you are an American thinking that America has the right to be the "Leader of the Free World", how on earth do you think this is gonna work out? With a nationalist American, who puts American values on the top, before of any others? Or with a strategy of consensus?
BonoVoxSupastar said:I think that's probably true and a very sad statement about the arrogance and ignorance of this segment of the US population.
nbcrusader said:
There are many who think the US is already the leader of the free world and that we don't need to "apply" for the position again. In essence, if the US acts in its own best interest, it should be the best interest for the rest of you.
I'm not saying this is right or wrong, just trying to explain what I believe the mindset to be.
nbcrusader said:
I'm not saying this is right or wrong
nbcrusader said:
The DNC needs to learn to attract this base, instead of dismissing it as "arrogant" or "ignorant". I doubt the "we are just smarter than you" theme will help win elections.
whenhiphopdrovethebigcars said:I would also like your personal opinion. Do you think its right, or wrong?
BonoVoxSupastar said:How else would you describe a group of people who dismiss everything outside their tiny known world.
nbcrusader said:
Are American values best? This is hard to answer. If we recognized better values elsewhere, wouldn’t we adopt them for ourselves?
whenhiphopdrovethebigcars said:That´s the problem with nationalism. In general, nationalism forbids you to recognize that other values are better than the ones of your country. After all, it´s your nation´s values, not another nation´s values.
whenhiphopdrovethebigcars said:I also don´t think you´d adopt them so easily. Just two examples, I could make more of them.. look at the percentange of Americans who die of heart attack due to fat, unhealthy food. It´s very clear that U.S. citizens would be better off with a change in consumer habits. It´s also clear that most of the U.S. citizens (except of a tiny group of energy moguls), and all the world, would be better off if the U.S. signed the Kyoto Protocol. Where´s the best interest of the nation? Is it an American value to pollute as much as possible? An American value to waste food?
whenhiphopdrovethebigcars said:By the way, your consensus policy sounds quite clear - but that´s exactly what I said: If you "want the absolute best possible deal for my client", you have to decide who the client is: America or the "free world"?
nbcrusader said:
This, of course, depends on the willingness of any individual to learn, understand and be influenced by other values. In a pure sense, nationalism prevents you from doing so.
Good examples. Regarding the first, I believe our national values have been cheapened by consumerism. Your example of food is right on. This weekend, our church introduced this year's mission program for children. Children will be specifically helping families who live in the garbage dumps of Cairo. One thing that really caught the children's attention is that the food these people people comes from the garbage. And what they don't eat goes to their animals. Four days later, I am in Las Vegas watching the gross excesses of your typical casino buffet. We are a consumer nation.
Kyoto we can differ on.
In the context of voting for a President, the client I want represented is America.
nbcrusader said:
Why would you assume that they have dismissed "everything outside their world"? Perhaps people think through these things and come to a different conclusion.
Sherry Darling said:PING: NBC and Hip Hop--
Ya'll are officially invited to join me in forming this nonprofit which it has always been a dream of mine to form. It's called Peace Travel, and it's purpose is global understanding thru person to person contact. With the windfall of funding that will no doubt arrive , what I want to try to do is fully fund trips to places for folks who would never otherwise have the chance to go. It opens minds and changes lives, I tell ya.
SD
nbcrusader said:
If you are serious about forming a non-profit, I have done a number. PM me if you need help with the legal stuff.
Schwarzenegger
"I don't know why I watched the presidential debates," he said. "If I want to watch a smart liberal Democrat and a Republican leader argue, all we have to do is go out to dinner. They were lucky. They only had to do it three times."