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[q]Poll: Bush Ratings At All-Time Low

NEW YORK, Feb. 27, 2006
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(CBS) The latest CBS News poll finds President Bush's approval rating has fallen to an all-time low of 34 percent, while pessimism about the Iraq war has risen to a new high.

Americans are also overwhelmingly opposed to the Bush-backed deal giving a Dubai-owned company operational control over six major U.S. ports. Seven in 10 Americans, including 58 percent of Republicans, say they're opposed to the agreement.

CBS News senior White House correspondent Jim Axelrod reports that now it turns out the Coast Guard had concerns about the ports deal, a disclosure that is no doubt troubling to a president who assured Americans there was no security risk from the deal.

The troubling results for the Bush administration come amid reminders about the devastating impact of Hurricane Katrina and negative assessments of how the government and the president have handled it for six months.

In a separate poll, two out of three Americans said they do not think President Bush has responded adequately to the needs of Katrina victims. Only 32 percent approve of the way President Bush is responding to those needs, a drop of 12 points from last September’s poll, taken just two weeks after the storm made landfall.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/02/27/opinion/polls/main1350874.shtml

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just sayin' is all ... let's hear again about a mandate?
 
Wow. This is bad news for Bush. The majority of the people are against the port sale. Ooh, maybe that's not such a good idea.
 
Do we really want leadership tied to approval polls? Should the White House conduct focus groups before making policy decisions.

The 34% is measured during the frenzy of the port sale. Do you want to validate a number that is driven by unsubstantiated anti-Arab fears?
 
verte76 said:
Leadership tied to popularity polls? Not necessarily, but that's what drives democracy, what the people want.

But we don't vote on each and every issue. Approval polls only measure the fickle mood of the country - not much more.
 
nbcrusader said:
Do we really want leadership tied to approval polls? Should the White House conduct focus groups before making policy decisions.

The 34% is measured during the frenzy of the port sale. Do you want to validate a number that is driven by unsubstantiated anti-Arab fears?



the white house already conducts focus groups before they make policy decisions. further, they conduct wars in adherence to political timetables and exploit the military (and the three black people in the audience for any given bush speach) for political gain.

the 34% might have something to do with the port sale, but you overestimate its importance. the number has much more to do with the two still looming massive examples of this administration's inability to govern -- Iraq and New Orleans.
 
Also, remember to scratch behind the surface of a poll. You may find some interesting information.

"Total Republicans" contacted: 272 unweighted and 289 weighted.

"Total Democrats" contacted: 409 unweighted and 381 weighted.

"Total Independents" contacted: 337 unweighted and 348 weighted.


Also, the poll revealed:

Brent Baker also noted how CBS failed to highlight a key portion of its poll on the Feb. 27 "CBS Evening News." 66 percent of respondents thought the media devoted "too much time" to Cheney's hunting accident.
 
nbcrusader said:


But we don't vote on each and every issue. Approval polls only measure the fickle mood of the country - not much more.



such polls, especially in an election year with much of Congress facing re-election, let the Republican party in general know the public's approval for the current White House and thusly guides how strongly in support John Q. Republican Congressman must come out in favor of Bush administration proposal "X" -- and also how far he can stray from the administration and how it will affect his re-election chances in November.

what 34% means is that the Republican party best start to distance itself from the White House if they hope to be relected in November -- witness what happened in the governor's race in VA where Bush showed up to help Kilgore, and Kilgore lost (in VA!) anyway.

the more the White House is viewed as political poison, the less strength Bush will have to get his various inanities through congress.
 
That's true about the Cheney hunting incident. But these polls aren't just tied to the port situation. This is a trend. The last polls were at 39%.

It's also the bad news in Iraq, when Buckley turns against the war and one of the PFNC architects say their ideas were wrong, your dead.
 
[q]GOP Govs. Say Bush Miscues Hurt Candidates
By ROBERT TANNER, AP National Writer
Tue Feb 28, 7:58 AM ET

WASHINGTON - Republican governors are openly worrying that the Bush administration's latest stumbles — from the natural disaster of Hurricane Katrina to those of its own making on prescription drugs and ports security — are taking an election-year toll on the party back home.

The GOP governors reluctantly acknowledge that the series of gaffes threatens to undermine public confidence in President Bush's ability to provide security, which has long been his greatest strength among voters.

"You've got solid conservatives coming up speaking like they haven't before, it's likely that something's going on at the grass roots," said Republican Mark Sanford of South Carolina. "Whether it's temporary or not remains to be seen."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060228...eiyFz4D;_ylu=X3oDMTA5aHJvMDdwBHNlYwN5bmNhdA--

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I think Iraq, the Hurricane Katrina fallout, and the ports thing are all hurting Bush, not just the ports thing, although that doesn't seem to be helping him.
 
Irvine511 said:




the white house already conducts focus groups before they make policy decisions. further, they conduct wars in adherence to political timetables and exploit the military (and the three black people in the audience for any given bush speach) for political gain.

the 34% might have something to do with the port sale, but you overestimate its importance. the number has much more to do with the two still looming massive examples of this administration's inability to govern -- Iraq and New Orleans.

Its a nice poll, but how relevant or accurate is it? At the end of the day, they still control all the elected parts of government. Solid Republican control going on 6 years now despite polls which indicated a change was about to happen on election day. Perhaps things will be different this November.
 
nbcrusader said:


The key words to the aside were:




but how is Cheney shooting someone relevant to Bush's approval ratings? isn't that someone trying to reformulate the argument as a Bush vs. the media paradigm -- where the media is plainly out to get Bush, and thereore any criticism of the media is also support for Bush?

and Cheney's approval rating is at 19% anyway.
 
The only poll that counts will be the one that formally ousts this crony government and idiotic Congress.

I don't think it's really related only to the ports deal (his approval rating before that had already been below 40% anyway), but we're really heavily into Bush fatigue.
 
nbcrusader said:
I'd say it is relevent to the extent the news media can manufacture reality through selective reporting.



VLWC!!!!

what impact could that particular statistic *possibly* have on Bush's approval ratings?
 
nbcrusader said:
I'd say it is relevent to the extent the news media can manufacture reality through selective reporting.

Sometimes that will work for Bush, sometimes against him.

Poor bastard.

But no one should minimize the ability of opinion polls, however they are manipulated, to influence politicians' decisions if they feel they will lose too many voters.
 
:hmm:

In its classic "fair and balanced" tradition, CBS slanted in favor of Democrats its poll that found Bush has a 34 percent approval rating and a 59 percent disapproval rating, an all-time high for a CBS poll.

On the bottom of the PDF version of the poll (page 18) it says how many Democrats versus Republicans were contacted.

"Total Republicans" contacted: 272 unweighted and 289 weighted.

"Total Democrats" contacted: 409 unweighted and 381 weighted.

"Total Independents" contacted: 337 unweighted and 348 weighted.
 
nbcrusader said:
Do we really want leadership tied to approval polls? Should the White House conduct focus groups before making policy decisions.
What you don't like Bill Clinton?

:wink:
 
Maoilbheannacht said:


Its a nice poll, but how relevant or accurate is it? .

The average on a few sites that track several of the polls is basically 40% approval, 55% dissapproval.

So it's low (CBS), but if they were inclined, someone could post Rasmussen and make it look the other way, higher, at 46%.
The dissaproval in Rasmussen is 53%, so either way that is the number that is growing and solidifying.

How relevant is it? Since there is no more elections for Bush, it's not. And since the Dems don't have much of any agenda, it's even less relevant.

Remember, Bush had shitty approval ratings and a few months later got re-elected, that tells you all you need to know.

That's the two party system for you in a nutshell, no real choices.
 
nbcrusader said:


But we don't vote on each and every issue. Approval polls only measure the fickle mood of the country - not much more.

Exactly. 34% ain´t a problem, Bush can´t get re-elected anyway so what is this mad frenzy about?

It´s just a poll. Why get excited over something that changes nothing. If you want to see Bush removed, kick him out of office.
 
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