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Old 02-28-2006, 01:46 PM   #16
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the white house already conducts focus groups before they make policy decisions. further, they conduct wars in adherence to political timetables and exploit the military (and the three black people in the audience for any given bush speach) for political gain.

the 34% might have something to do with the port sale, but you overestimate its importance. the number has much more to do with the two still looming massive examples of this administration's inability to govern -- Iraq and New Orleans.
Its a nice poll, but how relevant or accurate is it? At the end of the day, they still control all the elected parts of government. Solid Republican control going on 6 years now despite polls which indicated a change was about to happen on election day. Perhaps things will be different this November.
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If reported.


wasn't it just reported?
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wasn't it just reported?
The key words to the aside were:

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CBS failed to highlight
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The key words to the aside were:



but how is Cheney shooting someone relevant to Bush's approval ratings? isn't that someone trying to reformulate the argument as a Bush vs. the media paradigm -- where the media is plainly out to get Bush, and thereore any criticism of the media is also support for Bush?

and Cheney's approval rating is at 19% anyway.
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I'd say it is relevent to the extent the news media can manufacture reality through selective reporting.
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The only poll that counts will be the one that formally ousts this crony government and idiotic Congress.

I don't think it's really related only to the ports deal (his approval rating before that had already been below 40% anyway), but we're really heavily into Bush fatigue.
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I'd say it is relevent to the extent the news media can manufacture reality through selective reporting.


VLWC!!!!

what impact could that particular statistic *possibly* have on Bush's approval ratings?
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I'd say it is relevent to the extent the news media can manufacture reality through selective reporting.
Sometimes that will work for Bush, sometimes against him.

Poor bastard.

But no one should minimize the ability of opinion polls, however they are manipulated, to influence politicians' decisions if they feel they will lose too many voters.
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In its classic "fair and balanced" tradition, CBS slanted in favor of Democrats its poll that found Bush has a 34 percent approval rating and a 59 percent disapproval rating, an all-time high for a CBS poll.

On the bottom of the PDF version of the poll (page 18) it says how many Democrats versus Republicans were contacted.

"Total Republicans" contacted: 272 unweighted and 289 weighted.

"Total Democrats" contacted: 409 unweighted and 381 weighted.

"Total Independents" contacted: 337 unweighted and 348 weighted.
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What are the ratings for President Gore?
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What are the ratings for President Gore?
I wish there were some, but they don't exist.
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Do we really want leadership tied to approval polls? Should the White House conduct focus groups before making policy decisions.
What you don't like Bill Clinton?

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Its a nice poll, but how relevant or accurate is it? .
The average on a few sites that track several of the polls is basically 40% approval, 55% dissapproval.

So it's low (CBS), but if they were inclined, someone could post Rasmussen and make it look the other way, higher, at 46%.
The dissaproval in Rasmussen is 53%, so either way that is the number that is growing and solidifying.

How relevant is it? Since there is no more elections for Bush, it's not. And since the Dems don't have much of any agenda, it's even less relevant.

Remember, Bush had shitty approval ratings and a few months later got re-elected, that tells you all you need to know.

That's the two party system for you in a nutshell, no real choices.
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But we don't vote on each and every issue. Approval polls only measure the fickle mood of the country - not much more.
Exactly. 34% ain´t a problem, Bush can´t get re-elected anyway so what is this mad frenzy about?

It´s just a poll. Why get excited over something that changes nothing. If you want to see Bush removed, kick him out of office.
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The only poll that counts will be the one that formally ousts this crony government and idiotic Congress.

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