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Old 09-20-2016, 06:08 PM   #211
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On the one hand, refugees are human fucking beings.

On the other hand, Skittles are fucking delicious.
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It is a reminder that things were, in fact, better with Bush than they would be with Trump. Not to gloss over the atrocities that happened on Bush's watch, but there were things he did that were not terrible (like the HIV stuff, like finally growing a spine and pushing back against Cheney's most aggressive foreign policy views in his second term, etc.).
It is funny how much better some Republican politicians look in light of the batshit insanity that is Trump, isn't it?

The mention of Dubya reminds me that I saw this bit online earlier today regarding his father:

George H.W. Bush for Hillary? A spokesman isn't saying - CNNPolitics.com

Kinda interesting if true.
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2016 US Presidential Election Thread XIII

It really allows you to put both Bush presidents into perspective. As the primaries did with Jeb! I mean, calling Trump objectively worse than Dubya isn't to say I'd rather have Dubya... but if it were 2000, I would. Dubya didn't really royally fuck up until Iraq. So there's a little bit of hindsight there, but there's no telling what Trump is capable of in terms of disasters.
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Interesting article about Clinton's lack of support among young blacks.

Unlike Their Parents, Black Millennials Aren’t A Lock For Clinton | FiveThirtyEight


What's most interesting is that non-whites below the age of 30 actually supported Sanders to a much wider degree than whites. It's information that probably got lost in the shuffle.

For me then and now, age was clearly the most prominent divide during that primary.
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blah blah blah Sanders blah blah blah
shut the fuck up about bernie fucking sanders already for fucks sakes
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CNN: Breaking News: Bernie Sanders Not The Democratic Nominee
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Just hard not to think about what could have been now that the Democratic base has buyer's remorse.
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Countdown to "Democrats would be in a golden age if only they had nominated Dennis Kucinich in 2004": 3, 2...
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Just hard not to think about what could have been now that the Democratic base has buyer's remorse.
Who said the Democratic base has buyer's remorse?
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Good point. The 45% that didn't vote for Clinton didn't vote for her...so I guess the buyer's remorse comes from the olds that thought she was their best hope against Trump. But they'll be the only ones to blame if she loses.
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Good point. The 45% that didn't vote for Clinton didn't vote for her...so I guess the buyer's remorse comes from the olds that thought she was their best hope against Trump. But they'll be the only ones to blame if she loses.
At some point you're going to have to accept that your candidate lost the primary.

In the meantime, it'd be nice if we could stop beating the same dead horse over and over again. Move on.
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I think BMP is actually a Clinton plant, trying to get people so riled up that it makes them look forward to voting for Clinton to spite him.
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It's a good theory, but as the polls demonstrate, there's nothing anybody can do to excite someone enough to vote for Clinton.
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Ugh never mind, none of us should take the bait.
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