2016 US Presidential Election Thread XIII

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the bloomsburg, pa fair this weekend looked like fun:

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The new America is either multicultural/multiracial, or it is a bastion for racist whites.

Come November, we'll see which one.
 
in addition to being a seller of nazi flags, betsinger is also a registered sex offender. In 2007, he was charged with more than 20 counts related to child pornography. He eventually entered a plea deal and was sentenced to probation. He’s required to be on pennsylvania’s megan’s law sex offender registry until the day he dies.

“i didn’t do anything wrong,” he insists. “i downloaded some shit on the internet, and now i’m being punished for the rest of my life.”

:| #maga
 
“I’ve been doing this shit for 45 years,” says Lawrence Betsinger, the man with the Nazi flags. “I can’t see where it would be some tragic thing just because somebody bitched and moaned about it.”

Yeah, crazy that people actually get upset when they see a Nazi flag. whoda thunk?

Good lord, this guy's a real piece of work.
 
I thought about skipping the debate for my own sanity, but I knew I wouldn't be able to stay off social media, so I might as well watch it.

Because you never know - Trump might actually get me to come around to his side!

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Tomorrow at this time Trump will be old news finally exposed, and Hillary riding a four or five point bump, she goes from a one state lead to a 4 or 5 state lead and it's all down hill.
 
I am a big supporter of Clinton. I have been waiting for the day she would get to be on the stage with Trump and take him apart on specifics and exposing his shallowness and bigotry to a wide audience.
Now that it's tonight. I'm nervous as shit.
Trump can make 10 wrong moves and he'll be ok. Clinton makes one, and its the narrative all over the "liberal media" for the next week or two.

This atheist is praying a little - to something out there...
 
I've gotten to the point where all I tell myself is I'll vote Blue and I've done my part. I can't vote for others, I can't really change people's minds.

All I am in control of is how I vote. I will admit I am worried what can happen to this country with Trump in charge.
 
If Trump wins I'm moving to Utah to be with Mitt Romney


All you never-Trumpers are welcome to join me, very affordable housing and low crime.
 
fwiw, a proverbial "friend of a friend" who is in a position to know these things thinks the election is pretty much over. barring a catastrophe or black swan event, the fundamentals point to a clear Clinton win. the media is invested in its horse race, they need to give you a reason to tune in every day and be entertained.

what has happened, i think, is that Trump has become normalized, and Kellyanne Conway has done an admirable job reigning him and his campaign in. it's now not dissimilar than if Clinton were running against Cruz or Jeb. the country is basically falling in line for either D or R, and the D's have the electoral advantage right now. it's to Hillary's advantage to continue to make the case that Trump is fundamentally unfit and end this march to normal.
 
fwiw, a proverbial "friend of a friend" who is in a position to know these things thinks the election is pretty much over. barring a catastrophe or black swan event, the fundamentals point to a clear Clinton win.

From your friend of a friend's mouth to God's/Jebus'/Thor's ears.
 
If one side could essentially ignore the orange blob on the other side, it's an easy homerun. If she gets flustered by or brought into his 5th grade bully tactics, then it could look like a loss for her.


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If she gets flustered by or brought into his 5th grade bully tactics, then it could look like a loss for her

That's one thing I do not see happening tonight. She's way too cool for that.

My biggest fear is Donald Trump coming out showing some form of intelligence. I think that's very, very possible.
 
That's one thing I do not see happening tonight. She's way too cool for that.



My biggest fear is Donald Trump coming out showing some form of intelligence. I think that's very, very possible.


All Trump has to do is stick to his script and he wins. He isn't expected to debate, he's expected to act like a normal human being.

These debates aren't going to matter much in terms of swaying voters. It will give the media a giant boner for the next 6 weeks.

I'm not watching. It is like a train wreck but it'll be too frustrating.


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My biggest fear is Donald Trump coming out showing some form of intelligence. I think that's very, very possible.


No, he won't do that, he'll scare his base, but like Beal said, he just has to act somewhat like an adult.


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She can't fall back on being wonkish. She needs to smile and be likeable. Maybe a well-timed joke.

So many people are tuning in for the first time who may not have taken Trump seriously. He needs to exude gravitas and avoid any foot in mouth moments.


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