LuckyNumber7
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This thread is secretly a terrible sitcom in the wonderful land of Oz.
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Yeah. The flaming Republican trainwreck is what it is, and no new locomotives have smashed into it for a while.
Meanwhile, the excruciating arguments between the Sanders and Clinton fans here continue to deliver on the laughs/cringes.
Am I? I'm looking at the options: GOP or Democrat. I'm looking at the issues: what the election of either side means in the current political climate. Neither of those things have to do with my personal beliefs. What exactly about this isn't a broad view?You're applying your own personal beliefs and specific opinions into a one size fits all critique. You're so stuck on the narrative. You need to back up, and view it from a broader perspective. The fabric of the democracy that we live in. Polarizing red and blue with an obligation to be on board one of those ships is not what it's about.
Am I? I'm looking at the options: GOP or Democrat. I'm looking at the issues: what the election of either side means in the current political climate. Neither of those things have to do with my personal beliefs. What exactly about this isn't a broad view?
1. You're misunderstanding quite a bit of what I am saying. I'm not saying the GOP is everyone's enemy. I'm saying they should be IF the issues I talked about are issues that are important to you.You are. Your statement from the last thread was indicating that the GOP is the enemy. Because, the way you're going about it, there's some obligation to defeat the GOP that everyone must partake in. Yeah, they're pretty shitty. And I'm on board to defeat them at all costs this election. But not everybody agrees, and not everybody cares the same way you or I do. Different people care about different things. That's the beauty of our system. People can support or stand up for whatever they want. Whether or not you think that's a waste is on you. Nobody is obliged to vote alongside you, just as you're not obliged to agree with their voting choices.
Let me ask you this... if everyone has an obligation to vote against the GOP, who is voting for the GOP exactly?
There are more than just two options. There are tons of options. And every vote counts. Every vote for a democrat. Every vote for a republican. Every vote for a libertarian. Every vote for a socialist. Every vote that isn't cast, for the sake of not having someone to vote for.
You're about to become a living example of someone who "throws their vote away." What do you think Bernie Sanders is still doing in the race? What was the purpose of a clear loser in Ron Paul running in 2008 and 2012? There's more to elections than just picking the winner and the loser.
There's nothing broad about thinking that you're limited to two options.
You don't think the stakes are significantly higher in the general than in the primary?
That's pretty sad.
Neither one deserves to be the nominee if they have to resort to that kind of nonsense rather than just get enough people to support them.
just for some fun.
What do you guys think would be the outcome of a 4 way race. If Trump got screwed and he went third party, and because of that, Bernie saw an opportunity and went 4th party...
What do you think would happen?
Clinton, Sander, Trump, Cruz or Kasich...
I think no chance for Cruz or Kasich, but the other 3 would be incredibly close.
Clinton would have women and minority backing, plus some liberal Repubs that won't vote Trump.
Sanders would get youth vote, and would split indys with Trump.
Hard to say. thoughts?
If it were a 4 way popular vote it might be close... but in an electoral college setup, Hillary would dominate. Cruz might actually finish second, as they Republican States where Tump does best are largely Blue States in the general. If it were Kasich, the opposite may be true... where Trump finishes second but still can't grab enough to challenge Hillary.
Sanders might pick up a few states in New England but that's about it.
The only question would be whether or not the other three candidates can steal enough States from Hillary to keep her short of the magic number.
Trump can't get over 40% in his own damn party... how on earth will he ever get enough votes in a general to take enough states to get over 300?
that's nothing compared to Clinton
the most corrupt, dishonest, murderous, Wall St shill that's ever.....EVER LIVED!!!!
or that's what i've seen on FB