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Expectations
make losers winners
(see W)
make losers winners
(see W)
He's made his money, but do you REALLY feel comfortable with him handling extremely classified information?
We're free to question that of Trump.
But Mrs. Clinton really doesn't have a leg to stand on there.
I get he's an outsider, but what scares me the most is his lack of knowledge in any form of governance. He can say the most racist, sexist shit ever....that's all it is.
Hillary is a known quantity
crook-ed, everybody knows it, they only argue the degree
Perception is that she seems very hawkish, a GOP light. I have no issue attacking her policies. But I lose all interest when the conversation turns to "THE MOST CROOKED POLITICIAN OF THEM ALL!!!", "MOST DISHONEST OF ALL TIME!!!", etc
Hillary is a known quantity
crook-ed, everybody knows it, they only argue the degree
I agree that it's not good for politicking in the general election, I just objected to it being characterized as a "stupid phrase." For this particular purpose, yes. In general, no.
Fact checkers confirm Hillary Clinton is more honest than any of her 2016 opponents
tl;dr version
Politifact's assessment of truthfulness of 2016 presidential candidates:
Hillary Clinton: 72%
Bernie Sanders: 70%
Ted Cruz: 35%
Donald Trump: 23%
Fact checkers confirm Hillary Clinton is more honest than any of her 2016 opponents
tl;dr version
Politifact's assessment of truthfulness of 2016 presidential candidates:
Hillary Clinton: 72%
Bernie Sanders: 70%
Ted Cruz: 35%
Donald Trump: 23%
Nate Silver 2016 is an idiot
been off or wrong all season.
Bernie Sanders has beaten Hillary in West Virginia, which is no great surprise. What ought to have Hillary and the DNC looking nervously over at the panic button is the exit poll finding that 44 percent of Bernie voters say they will vote for Trump if Bernie is not the nominee.
The Clintons—Bill anyway—are supposed to be skilled at “triangulation.” But guess who’s triangulating circles around Hillary right now? She could Feel the Bern twice this year
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Warning signs for Hillary in the General
From Powerline
Bernie Sanders has beaten Hillary in West Virginia, which is no great surprise. What ought to have Hillary and the DNC looking nervously over at the panic button is the exit poll finding that 44 percent of Bernie voters say they will vote for Trump if Bernie is not the nominee.
Its amazing, we had like 69 total candidates from both parties and honestly I can't find one I could feel good about backing. These schmoos are the best candidates the 2 parties can produce to run our country? We're completely F'ed.I can't wait till this election is over. I feel like this election has brought the worst out in people, more so than any recent election.
We have supposed principled progressives saying they'll vote for an authoritarian douchebag.
Supposed principled conservatives showing us they're just angry hypocrites.
Those that I would have considered logical just a few months ago are spinning off the rails and talking about how Trump will make this an armed Christian nation again.
And those I considered crazy a few months ago are now the batshit insane talking about Obama putting in martial law and that the Pope and bathroom laws are the sign we're at the end of times and we'll never see another president.
Idiocracy 2017, yay
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Its amazing, we had like 69 total candidates from both parties and honestly I can't find one I could feel good about backing. These schmoos are the best candidates the 2 parties can produce to run our country? We're completely F'ed.
Previously, I scoffed at the notion that there was as much crossover between the Sanders and Trump camps, but even I have to admit I was wrong. I, like probably many of us, was thinking of myself and like-minded people, because I managed to fall into the trap of believing that Sanders' voter base was 20-somethings who are pissed about income inequality. While that is a sizable and not inconsequential base (one that I've noticed many of Clinton's media supporters love to yell "WE DON'T NEED YOUR VOTE" at, but I digress) we're all forgetting about constituencies like West Virginia. Like this absolute piece of shit article that treats everyone in that state, and others who have suffered immensely from economic downturn in small town America, as if they are totally irrelevant. Desperation is very real, but that makes for uncomfortable realities, especially for the pundits who make their living reporting on the election game. So let's just call them disgruntled white men and move on! There is no other possible way they would show the voting habits that they have shown.
This isn't meant to support the "Bernie or Bust" movement, which is absurd and not something I am apart of. But acting like there are only four or five neat little boxes to pile the electorate into has gotten us in a whole lot of trouble before. And let's be clear: Clinton has not shown once to have a good understanding of voters. The Dems can very well still blow this election, and if they do it will be because they have shown to be wholly incompetent.
My entire point was that trying to figure out who is a "true progressive" and who is not is a rather counter-productive exercise.