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Old 05-20-2016, 07:29 PM   #991
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Hey, at least today Ryan Tedder said the next U2 album will be super super accessible. Like, young people will totally buy it.

And now back to politics.

To get off of the Dem side, did it bother anyone else that the Donald basically blamed the Egypt flight going down on terrorism immediately before any facts came out?

It may turn out to be true, but his quick, yet so so tiny Twitter fingers seems like it'll eventually come back to bite him.

Or maybe not


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Old 05-20-2016, 07:33 PM   #992
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Clinton was quick to blame the Benghazi situation on the video. And that came back to bite her.

Neither is truly capable of being our leader in foreign policy and it's a shame this is what we're stuck with.
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To get off of the Dem side, did it bother anyone else that the Donald basically blamed the Egypt flight going down on terrorism immediately before any facts came out?
Yep. Didn't surprise me, mind, 'cause that's how Trump rolls, but still irritating nonetheless.
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Has anyone evolved more in the past few months -- or minutes -- as Donald J Trump?
Very unlikely
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It's very important to remember that A LOT of the supposed bad behavior on the side of Sanders supporters is totally made up.

Sanders himself is bothering me more and more for certain aspects of his approach, but Clinton supporters (IN MY EXPERIENCE) are a hundred times worse than Sanders supporters.
To me, Sanders supporters are super excited and in a cult mentality so they'll re-post their memes or whatever else like crazy, but almost all of it is actually factual and stems from their like of what this guy stands for.

The other side has some weird hero worship over an extremely flawed candidate (and the party members that get paid to do this stuff for a living have extra incentive to strongly support her). So question Clinton's credentials on a specific issue and you're the devil incarnate. It's the equivalent of IMDB forum posters that spend their lives on some actor's message board, defending them at all costs.

And yes, the stuff they have used to target Sanders is always the most minor of things taken out of context. Like that Coates (a Sanders supporter) article complaining about Sanders not supporting major reparations for descendants of slaves (Clinton doesn't either) and then Clinton's supporters harp on it. Or the aforementioned "chair throwing" incident in Nevada that never happened. Or acting like a "Planned Parenthood endorsement" means something when it's a top-down endorsement from one person who worked alongside the Clintons in the nineties and whose daughter was currently working on Clinton's campaign staff (and all of this after Clinton jumped on the PP video bandwagon and called the videos "disturbing").

It's probably symptomatic of the fact that Sanders has such a consistent record and barely any dirt on him that even the most minor of ways to attack him have to be twisted and blown up out of proportion at any given opportunity. And when it's not that, it's the condescension towards younger voters (who are far more knowledgeable than older voters on current politics along with being better educated) or acting like Clinton can get shit done that Bernie can't as, after all, a Republican House means no significant legislation for a Democratic President. I can't believe how many times I have to repeat that last statement in this thread, but Clinton's most avid supporters in here have been absolutely delusional when it comes to that. Republicans are not suddenly going to lock arms, sing kumbaya and start actually fixing the problems this country happens to face just because she is President.
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Yep. Didn't surprise me, mind, 'cause that's how Trump rolls, but still irritating nonetheless.
If he's wrong, people will forget about it thanks to our goldfish political mentality and if he's right he looks like a genius and it plays into his favor. It's a no-lose proposition for Trump to just spout his opinion like it's fact when these sort of events occur.
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There's no hero worship.
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Demos firing Matt Bruenig is such bullshit. Clinton's Twitter supporters are openly just gunning for the jobs of anyone who stands up to her supporters. He called someone a "scumbag" for being hypocritical on the issue of welfare, so he needs to be fired (a week before his child is due to be born) because civility above all else! The last thing we want to do is being impolite to entrenched Democrat power players.

It's very important to remember that A LOT of the supposed bad behavior on the side of Sanders supporters is totally made up. High profile articles based on two Facebook comments, people doing shit like throwing chairs when that never happened. Every article seems to have something.

Sanders himself is bothering me more and more for certain aspects of his approach, but Clinton supporters (IN MY EXPERIENCE) are a hundred times worse than Sanders supporters. Tom Watson, Joan Walsh, Jonathan Chait, Sady Doyle ... they're doing way worse than anyone I've seen on the Sanders side.

To summarize:

My favourite is Peter Daou who threatens a lawsuit against literally anyone on Twitter for bringing up his Lebanese right-wing death squad past.
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I'm sorry if my objective, non-partisan view of reality gets in the way of the Democratic bubble. Its party members have a lot of trouble seeing what the general electorate actually wants because they don't care to open up their ears.


so i guess your answer to my question is yes, you absolutely could be more condescending.
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You'd think if the general public wanted Bernie so badly he woulda done a wee bit better in the open primaries.

Maybe it's a Broward County situation and they all punched the wrong chad.

I don't know. I can't tell what happened through my pants suit colored glasses. If only there was somebody steeped in reality
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Explain?
Not only has Colin Montgomerie never won a major, he's famous for it. I think he's come in second like 5 or 6 times.
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DNC feeling the Bern

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