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Old 04-15-2016, 09:59 PM   #736
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I have tickets to the Giants Sunday night game. We should get Headache to come to town too!

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I'll buy some long johns and buy beer for tailgating!
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I'll buy some long johns and buy beer for tailgating!
Luckily it's an early October game so you would only need 3 layers of clothing.

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Bernie is holding a rally down the street from me Monday evening. Getting home from work is going to be a peach.
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Bernie is holding a rally down the street from me Monday evening. Getting home from work is going to be a peach.
Well at least now we know why you will be voting for Hillary Tuesday. No traffic tie ups for a better America.

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Well at least now we know why you will be voting for Hillary Tuesday. No traffic tie ups for a better America.

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Indeed.

They really should have done this thing tomorrow. The 7 train at rush hour is crazy enough. Now add in 20,000 hippies and communist sympathizers and nobody's going anywhere.

I should get a Hillary sign and hang it from the balcony. Or maybe a Trump one just for shits and giggles.
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Bernie Bros are winning

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President Obama is likely to sit out the entire presidential primary season amid concerns about the damage he could do by stepping too soon into a contentious Democratic contest running far longer than he expected, White House aides say.

As fault lines emerge in the race and with Obama not wanting to alienate key voters, his aides are gambling that Obama will still have enough time to rally the party before the November general election.
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John Kasich and his policies aren't anywhere close to moderate. They may look that way compared to just how crazy that party has become, but other than accepting free money for Obamacare, he has led a continual campaign against worker and women's rights. The guy is no moderate. It's the media's caricature of him (and liking of him, since he's less batshit) that's led to him doing so well in these general election polls. Once the public actually sees the sort of garbage he supports, he'd fall down to the support level of another also-ran like McCain or Romney.
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2016 US Presidential Election Thread - VII

Part of what keeps me awake at night is not knowing why she hasn't been able to put Bernie away. I would like to think that it's more his skill than her flaws. It may be both. I also think that she hasn't really gone for the jugular so as not to alienate his supporters, because she knows she will need them (and him) in the fall. So, she's being very cautious in a way she would not be with a Republican in the general. I remember it being said in '08 that one reason to prefer HRC over O was because the Clintons would slit throats to win. That's still true, I think.

But then I wonder if she isn't actually a weak candidate. She's not a movement candidate, like Obama or Reagan or even her husband, or like Sanders would be. She's more of a policy wonk status quo candidate who is, in effect, Obama's VP. So she's more a Gore or a Bush 1. I hope.

My deep fear is she's a Dukakis or Mondale.

But probably not. Right?
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It's a shame Warren is not in at the spot Sanders is occupying now.
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Part of what keeps me awake at night is not knowing why she hasn't been able to put Bernie away. I would like to think that it's more his skill than her flaws. It may be both. I also think that she hasn't really gone for the jugular so as not to alienate his supporters, because she knows she will need them (and him) in the fall. So, she's being very cautious in a way she would not be with a Republican in the general. I remember it being said in '08 that one reason to prefer HRC over O was because the Clintons would slit throats to win. That's still true, I think.

But then I wonder if she isn't actually a weak candidate. She's not a movement candidate, like Obama or Reagan or even her husband, or like Sanders would be. She's more of a policy wonk status quo candidate who is, in effect, Obama's VP. So she's more a Gore or a Bush 1. I hope.

My deep fear is she's a Dukakis or Mondale.

But probably not. Right?
Mrs. Clinton could be that, a Dukakis or Mondale type.

But she STILL probably beats up the current opposition on the other side, come the general.
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I think this election cycle proves once and for all that having just two political parties in a country as vast and varied as this one is just fucking stupid.
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I think this election cycle proves once and for all that having just two political parties in a country as vast and varied as this one is just fucking stupid.

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