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Old 04-06-2016, 10:07 PM   #331
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Sanders is now closer than Trump to winning his party's nomination. Both sit at 93% on the FiveThirtyEight tracker and Sanders has another big win on the way this weekend.

Bernie's Wisconsin win nabbed him exactly the amount of delegates he would need in a 50-50 race nationwide, so his only real progress recently was earning back a couple more delegates in Nevada thanks to the Clark County flip this weekend. He still needs to make up 88 delegates (a Wyoming blowout on Saturday could help) while hitting these projections:

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/...ets/democrats/
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Sorta makes sense as to why Trump probably tried to get a scandal out of Cruz... this thing is all but convention bound.
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As a Libertarian I much prefer Sanders as a president, than Clinton.



One example is her advocacy to allow victims to sue gun makers which Bernie Sanders rejects.



She would push, I think, far more progressive liberal ideas than Sanders.



I don't agree with Sanders on many issues but I believe the guy is honest, tells us what he really thinks and would be far less aggressive in pushing progressive social ideology.



Like he says, his main concern would be helping average Americans.

I'm guessing someone hacked your account? Sanders is everything you railed against Obama for but he ended up not being. Why the hell would any informed human being think Clinton was more progressive than Sanders?!

Is the NRA propaganda THAT important to you?

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I really wish people would stop using the term 'saying it how it is' and its many variants. It's meaningless.
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Sanders is now closer than Trump to winning his party's nomination. Both sit at 93% on the FiveThirtyEight tracker and Sanders has another big win on the way this weekend.
Define big win. Wyoming has a total of 14 delegates to divide. Sanders is projected (by the 538 site you're linking to) to win 9 of them, with the other 5 going to Clinton. This would reduce Clinton's lead to 206 delegates (from 210). Not exactly a big change if you ask me.
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I really wish people would stop using the term 'saying it how it is' and its many variants. It's meaningless.
hey we have real estate mogul as the frontrunner for the presidential race. everything is pretty meaningless at this pt.
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Define big win. Wyoming has a total of 14 delegates to divide. Sanders is projected (by the 538 site you're linking to) to win 9 of them, with the other 5 going to Clinton. This would reduce Clinton's lead to 206 delegates (from 210). Not exactly a big change if you ask me.

It say the only reason why little old Wyoming is a big win for Sanders if he wins it is because of the fact that he's on a winning streak. It's momentum brewing, which is certainly worth something.
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I'm guessing someone hacked your account? Sanders is everything you railed against Obama for but he ended up not being. Why the hell would any informed human being think Clinton was more progressive than Sanders?!

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I'm telling you... it's the "honesty" thing that Paul fans seem to think it a trait of libertarianism.
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THIS! and this is extremely important. We have been warped into this delusion of big sweeping change, even the more ridiculous notion of "revolution". Sorry folks. Our entire system was set up to avoid just that. And thank god it was.

No one is going to go in and overturn everything. Right or left. It seems lost on so many, that if you want your side to jump in and make everything super liberal, that you ignore the fact that there is half the country that wants it the other way. So i thank my lucky stars that our system is made for long drawn out, slow change.
Bernie supporters keep knocking Obama and call him disappointing. If you look at all the things he was actually able to get done, it's extremely impressive.

Incremental change is the only way, and actually its the way that actually gets things DONE, and not broad fanciful statements that are rejected outright by the opposition.
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I really wish people would stop using the term 'saying it how it is' and its many variants. It's meaningless.
Thank you. Saying it how it is... Not being PC... Its all bullshit that means, I can say stupid shit, not know what I'm talking about and have no substance behind it, but you shouldn't criticize it!!
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I'm telling you... it's the "honesty" thing that Paul fans seem to think it a trait of libertarianism.

I get that, but If it's the "honesty" thing and Sanders has stated very clearly that he's the true progressive, why would one think Clinton would push a more progressive agenda? That makes no sense.


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I didn't say i was against incremental changes. i am against incremental changes that never happen, like what Obama kinda promised.
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I get that, but If it's the "honesty" thing and Sanders has stated very clearly that he's the true progressive, why would one think Clinton would push a more progressive agenda? That makes no sense.


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I'm agreeing with you. There's this irrationality surrounding hatred for Clinton's policy but respect for Sanders.
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I didn't say i was against incremental changes. i am against incremental changes that never happen, like what Obama kinda promised.

Is that really true though? Lots of things have changed between 2008 and now. I think his framework for healthcare needs fixing, sure, but there are results.
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Sanders is now closer than Trump to winning his party's nomination. Both sit at 93% on the FiveThirtyEight tracker and Sanders has another big win on the way this weekend.

Bernie's Wisconsin win nabbed him exactly the amount of delegates he would need in a 50-50 race nationwide, so his only real progress recently was earning back a couple more delegates in Nevada thanks to the Clark County flip this weekend. He still needs to make up 88 delegates (a Wyoming blowout on Saturday could help) while hitting these projections:

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Reality, Sanders won handily in Wisconsin. But at the end of the day he came away with 2 more delegates than Clinton.
If he gains 5 in Wyoming, that makes a grand total of 7 delegate gain in a two week period....

If Clinton wins NY by 5, PA by 5-8, MD by 10-15, NJ by 5-8... (I'm trying to be fair with the numbers here)
Then can Sanders supporters finally concede? Even if she were to lose one of the above by a couple points... There just isn't anything more for Sanders to get with substantial numbers. PR has 60 delegates and that's a shoe-in for Clinton, and DC will be a sure Clinton win...

For people that claim every news organization is owned by Clinton and transmitted from Benghazi via a secret server, the media is being extraordinarily kind to Sanders. No real vetting, constant excuses for any mis-steps, and continued propping up that he has a real chance.

It's getting old,
and the fact that he straight out lied about Clinton last night, saying that she said he was not "qualified" and then turning around and saying Clinton isn't qualified to be president, is borderline disgusting.
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