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Old 07-29-2016, 07:01 PM   #631
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What about it then? The amount isn't anything out of the ordinary for someone like her.

To quote from the article I linked to earlier ( https://thepolicy.us/thinking-about-...87c#.vr7sieatr )



(BTW, John Kasich is in the $20K-$30K range. Mike Pence's fee is not disclosed, you'll have to contact that agency for it)

What do you mean "what about it?"

What kind of entities can afford to pay such money for a speech to be made? By suggesting that her high speaker fee is "normal" it's almost making the claim that she or no other politician is influenced by their income. If you made $3 million in a year, you'd be concerned about where your sets of $200k are coming from.
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What do you mean "what about it?"

What kind of entities can afford to pay such money for a speech to be made?
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Nearly all of her speeches were to organizations like American Camping Association, Ebay, Cisco, Xerox, Cardiovascular Research Foundation, United Fresh Produce Association, International Deli-Dairy-Bakery Association, California Medical Association, A&E Television Networks, Massachusetts Conference for Women, U.S. Green Building Council, National Association of Realtors, American Society of Travel Agents, Gap, National Association of Convenience Stores, the National Association of Chain Drug Stores, Institute of Scrap Recycling Industries, etc.
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By suggesting that her high speaker fee is "normal" it's almost making the claim that she or no other politician is influenced by their income. If you made $3 million in a year, you'd be concerned about where your sets of $200k are coming from.
No, if you make the majority of your income on paid speeches you're most likely not concerned where your sets of $200k are coming from. Just that you get sufficient of them.
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No, if you make the majority of your income on paid speeches you're most likely not concerned where your sets of $200k are coming from. Just that you get sufficient of them.

You misinterpreted what I meant. By caring where they come from, I mean that it's not like there's an incredibly high demand for your services. It's not like if she chooses not to do one of those speeches, she has another lined up waiting for her the same day. You take as many as you're offered, because 200k is a significant portion of her income.
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I wonder if Donald is just a huge fan of Game of Thrones and wants to start using ravens to communicate.

Maybe he could consult with Mittens and bring back horses and bayonets while he's at it.


He's making W look smart, holy fuck


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I think that W at least (usually) had the sense to know he wasn't the brightest bulb and therefore was a puppet to those more intelligent and evil than he was. Had he been born to a regular middle class family, he may not have been a bad guy - would have probably lived an unremarkable life of mediocre success at best in some small-ish town, hosting BBQs for the neighbours and never reading the newspaper.

Trump is worse because he thinks he's the smartest guy in the room and has zero hubris. On top of that he has no filter between his brain and his mouth and a horribly thin skin.
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Trump is worse because he thinks he's the smartest guy in the room and has zero hubris. On top of that he has no filter between his brain and his mouth and a horribly thin skin.
Along those lines, at a rally today, he stated that he's "starting to agree with" people chanting lock her up. He said that before he'd been nice, but now the gloves are off.

This from a man who has already brought up her husband's failings and blamed her for them.

He also said that he has the best temperament out of anyone who has ever run because he has "a winning temperament... I've been winning all my life."
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He also said that he has the best temperament out of anyone who has ever run because he has "a winning temperament... I've been winning all my life."
Him and Charlie Sheen.

And look where it got poor old Carlos Estevez.
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Him and Charlie Sheen.

And look where it got poor old Carlos Estevez.
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Kaine has a 100% rating from Planned Parenthood.

Also, he may be personally for the amendment while not actively working against the Clinton campaign's goals. Kind of like he is personally pro-life but has a 100% rating from Planned Parenthood. You are allowed to hold religious beliefs but also believe in the separation of church and state and the value of not forcing your beliefs onto others in a secular society.

People are allowed shades of gray and nuance in their views.
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Another family member of mine threw their hat behind Trump on Facebook today and the thing about it is I just don't understand why. There's nothing about him that has anything to do with her politics, her beliefs, her morals, etc. I can't understand how people stick so strongly to the party line. If there was ever a time to turn to another party, why not now? Why *not* exercise your right to vote? I don't get it.
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Politics are like sports. People support their team. Their team chose a dunce. But the other team can't win.
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It's like when Favre signed with the Vikings. Vikings fans suddenly loved the guy even though they hated him for a straight 15 years before that.


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Another family member of mine threw their hat behind Trump on Facebook today and the thing about it is I just don't understand why. There's nothing about him that has anything to do with her politics, her beliefs, her morals, etc. I can't understand how people stick so strongly to the party line. If there was ever a time to turn to another party, why not now? Why *not* exercise your right to vote? I don't get it.
You know how people who don't like Hillary are voting for her out of fear of Republican Supreme Court Justices?

That's how.

It's the only reason why this race is close. You'd say many more Republicans jumping ship if not for the court issue.
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Another family member of mine threw their hat behind Trump on Facebook today and the thing about it is I just don't understand why. There's nothing about him that has anything to do with her politics, her beliefs, her morals, etc. I can't understand how people stick so strongly to the party line. If there was ever a time to turn to another party, why not now? Why *not* exercise your right to vote? I don't get it.
My mom is a single-issue voter. Abortion. That's it. Despite the fact that Trump only became pro life a year ago. Despite the fact that abortion rates have dropped more under Democratic presidents than Republican ones (in fact, abortion rates went up under GWB), she's going with the party that yells most loudly against it.

I've got a post on Facebook where she started out defending Trump, but she has since stopped trying to justify that and has only kept commenting on abortion and how it's a Christian imperative to vote for the pro-life candidate (even if the pro-choice candidate is more effective at lowering the abortion rate). Her belief that abortion is the number one issue in this country also allows her to ignore the fact that Trump's stance on the death penalty, torture and support for the poor is anything but pro-life.

I'm pretty sure that deep down she knows Trump is an awful candidate, but her pride prevents her from admitting it.
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