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Old 07-28-2016, 01:58 PM   #511
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Old 07-28-2016, 02:20 PM   #512
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And I like how you consistently act as if it's the not voting for Hillary is the reason we call you out on your sexism. You are not sexist because you're not voting Hillary, no one ever even implied that. Your posts are viewed as sexist because they are filled with sexism, has nothing to do with Hillary.
Well, I'm all ears for examples. There's certainly examples of me being called out as sexist, usually quoting posts of mine that don't even remotely reference gender.

Face it, according to you, any slam on Hillary must be a slam from a woman-hater who is also racist because a lot of non-whites voted for her. Quit acting like you get to be the arbiter that decides all of this shit when your own candidate refers to blacks as "super predators" (along with the constant race baiting of her 2008 campaign) and the fake planned parenthood videos as "disturbing"...the only marginalized and scorned member of society that she wants to truly help is Hillary Clinton.
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Well, I'm all ears for examples. There's certainly examples of me being called out as sexist, usually quoting posts of mine that don't even remotely reference gender.

Face it, according to you, any slam on Hillary must be a slam from a woman-hater who is also racist because a lot of non-whites voted for her.
No, you can deflect all you want but this has nothing to do with Hillary. I've pointed them out and you chose to deflect then as well, but most had to do with saying women couldn't think for themselves or speaking for the motivation of women without any quote or hint as to what they are thinking.
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the only marginalized and scorned member of society that she wants to truly help is Hillary Clinton.
Her long record of public service suggests otherwise. The many individuals the DNC has brought up this week would beg to differ with your assessment as well.

Oh, also? This is the sexism we're talking about. How you presume to know what motivates her, even though you clearly have no personal insight into her life.
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I just don't understand how Hilary could possibly focus on the job as President when she also needs to focus on cooking and cleaning. That's the one advantage of having male Presidents as they haven't had to focus on those items in addition to a very stressful job.
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Oh, also? This is the sexism we're talking about. How you presume to know what motivates her, even though you clearly have no personal insight into her life.
By this logic, nobody can then speculate on the motives of someone running for office. But to call me sexist because I'm assuming what Clinton would do in office or what drives her is completely preposterous.
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but most had to do with saying women couldn't think for themselves or speaking for the motivation of women without any quote or hint as to what they are thinking.
Nope. Never recall saying anything like that in these threads, especially since women (and young women for that matter) were hardly running to the polls to vote for Clinton in droves, thus giving me nothing to gripe about.

Plus, the only group anybody had evidence of where her being female played a big role in getting support was with older white women, a group that likely would have voted for her anyway given her history with the party and that Clinton voters skew older in the first place...to everybody else on the left, it's a non-issue in 2016.
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Her long record of public service suggests otherwise. The many individuals the DNC has brought up this week would beg to differ with your assessment as well.

Oh, also? This is the sexism we're talking about. How you presume to know what motivates her, even though you clearly have no personal insight into her life.
I don't follow you either on the sexism stuff.

When I vote or decline to vote for any candidate I have some knowledge on, I presume to have an idea of what motivates the person. It's just part of the total package.

And how many of us have personal insights into any major candidates' lives ?
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By this logic, nobody can then speculate on the motives of someone running for office. But to call me sexist because I'm assuming what Clinton would do in office or what drives her is completely preposterous.
Taken in isolation, sure, I could see how that sounds unfair. But it's not as if you haven't been posting here for some time.
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Anyway, what a beautiful speech. What a fantastic man, in many ways too good a man to be president (I remain convinced our best and brightest would never run for office for the most part). I cried at the end, because it seemed like the end of an era of class, civility, respect. How can even the most ardent Trump fan not be embarrassed by his lack of class compared to Obama? How can we even begin to imagine the disgusting, classless, offensive creature that he is occupying that role? Spewing nonsense from the pulpit? Policies aside, I actually think anyone who thinks Trump's temperament is at all acceptable should feel deeply ashamed. We are all better than this.

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Those atheists are always up to something.
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Do we have a majority of atheists in this thread? I know it's a U2 forum and all, but it's also a band that attracts more intellectually minded people...hell, at one of the recent San Jose shows, I recall Bono trying to get Atheists into what he was calling for after he realized his spiritual calls were falling flat with a lot of the audience (probably isn't a bigger Atheist enclave then around here given the IQs and the industries).
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Do we have a majority of atheists in this thread? I know it's a U2 forum and all

You really know how to make near baseless generalizations right off the bat.

I mean, I loathe religion, but I value humility. Something you don't have.
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Nope. Never recall saying anything like that in these threads,
Women voting for Clinton were not voting for the issues, but just because she was a woman.

Adele is only popular because she's fat and women need something to relate to, it has nothing to do with her being talented.

Now place this in context of repeated comments like this and others over and over...
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