womanfish
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Update this morning - NBC has her jump up 7 points today. First post convention national poll. Yesterday PA poll - up 9.
2016 US Presidential Election Thread Part XI
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Update this morning - NBC has her jump up 7 points today. First post convention national poll. Yesterday PA poll - up 9.
No. Not in this case.
The Romney Obama debates went against two NFL games as well. The debates did well in the ratings.
The NFL has night games on Sunday, Monday and Thursday. Friday and Saturday nights are the lowest ratings days of the week.
That leaves Tuesday and Wednesday... two of those days in October are major Jewish holidays.
Oh, and yes... October. Baseball playoffs on every single night.
And the debates were scheduled last year, by an independent bipartisan committee.
Trump is merely trying to take a non issue and turn it into his advantage to somehow prove that the system is "rigged" against him.. He has zero case, but i suppose most of what he says has zero case.
There is no "seeing where he's coming from" on this issue, because there is no issue. He's merely making one up because that's what he does best... make shit up.
It's a bit weird to me that he's going down this NFL route (and lying about being contacted by them) since it's silly and so easily debunked. He'd have been better off claiming the system is rigged because it doesn't allow the other candidates to get on the stage - they'd back him and for him it's a lot better to have 3 people attacking Hillary than him having to debate policy with her one-on-one. Think about the primary debates, how many times did other candidates debate with each other while he basically stood there bloviating and threw in an insult once in a while. He said nothing of substance and in that format, he really didn't even need to.
womanfish
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I disagree. There is still a large squishy middle of voters that continue to go back and forth.
The mexican judge thing did hurt him for a good month. Hillary was nearing a double digit lead.
The FBI thing, coupled with the RNC convention put Trump back into a tie/up half a point.
Now after Dem convention, she just went up 7 points in the first post convention poll, and the Muslim father thing is ongoing. Which means it could stretch that bounce out considerably.
womanfish
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I know Trump is terrified to debate. He was able to give 30 second responses all the thru the primary, and most questions were major softballs because they were about Republican ideas. How bad is ISIS, and can we defeat them? How much do you love God? How evil is planned Parenthood, etc...
Now, he will have to form long responses to bipartisan questions where people really are really looking for some sort of coherent plans and principled response. Trump will do great with his current base if he continues to play like he has for the last year, but the swayable voters will lean to Clinton if he stays on this route.
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dazzledbylight
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Ah.... Libertarians...
Here's what one of my favorite Progressives Thom Hartman (who created the 'Brunch with Bernie [Sanders] radio interview sessions) has to say about them:
"Libertarians are just Republicans who want to smoke dope and get laid".
Makes sense to me.
Here's what one of my favorite Progressives Thom Hartman (who created the 'Brunch with Bernie [Sanders] radio interview sessions) has to say about them:
"Libertarians are just Republicans who want to smoke dope and get laid".
Makes sense to me.
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LuckyNumber7
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Are you fucking kidding me? Like, you're really trying to be a walking, talking stereotype here. What the fuck did I say that was sexist? That someone cares about all sources of their income? You can't just wildly scream "sexist!" if someone has a criticism of Hillary Clinton. I didn't say anything even remotely sexist. There isn't even an accidental way to misunderstand what I said. You're just saying it because fuck it! When you don't hear what you want, you just scream sexist!
Holy crap you're such a troll. I said nothing about how she "shouldn't be paid that much." Go read.
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Calm down.
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Clinton does a bang up job in this interview...until she then blatantly lies about Comey's words on the e-mails and the Clinton Foundation receiving money from foreign entities for speeches that Bill gave, both of which are obvious facts that nobody would argue against. Ugh.
Seriously. Why the fuck would you try and say Comey said something other than what he actually said? Why not just be smart and say that "I disagree on what was considered classified" or something?
And then the Clinton Foundation shit. Ugh. You can't just say something isn't true when it's clearly a fact as reported by your own organization. Just say Bill fucking gave speeches, got paid for them and that they will have no influence on her public policy as President.
It's really not that difficult.
Seriously. Why the fuck would you try and say Comey said something other than what he actually said? Why not just be smart and say that "I disagree on what was considered classified" or something?
And then the Clinton Foundation shit. Ugh. You can't just say something isn't true when it's clearly a fact as reported by your own organization. Just say Bill fucking gave speeches, got paid for them and that they will have no influence on her public policy as President.
It's really not that difficult.
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It's basically in the bag at this point. The debates will only cement the victory.
mikal
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Yeah, really happy with her bump. Maybe, just maybe Trump's latest blunder (along with the natural convention bump) is hurting him.
Her likelihood is up like 7% in the "polls plus" model, which basically disregards the conventions. So it's generally good news.
iron yuppie
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I assume you are referring to his remarks about Khizr Khan's DNC speech. That might be the thing that finally sticks to him, as active combat troops are among the few groups who are sacrosanct across party lines. He is catching a lot of heat from prominent Republicans about that issue as well, most notably from McCain.
It speaks volumes that we can't accurately know what "Trump's latest blunder" is supposed to be.
The Russia/Ukraine answers were so incredibly bad, I'm speechless.
I honestly think that if Trump was a woman, he would be getting the Sarah Palin treatment by now. In addition to the bigotry and narcisism, they guy is utterly ignorant.
namkcuR
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But I thought you were sure Hillary was going to lose to Trump?
trojanchick99
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Now the right wing media is slandering the Khan family. It's disgusting. All Trump had to do was talk about how he respects their sacrifice and can understand their anger. But he can't even do that. How is he supposed to be a fucking diplomat if he can't even do that.
Moonlit_Angel
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So much for "supporting the troops", eh? Ugh.
martha
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I've been trying to imagine him watching a cultural demonstration in a foreign country, like presidents do when they visit. Will he make fun of it, like he does everything he doesn't understand?
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trojanchick99
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Yes.
Also, he apparently can't even be trusted to comfort the families of our fallen troops, so there's that as well.
Also, he apparently can't even be trusted to comfort the families of our fallen troops, so there's that as well.
Even the most #merica dude out there can't side with a guy who shits on the parents of a soldier who died sacrificing his life to save his fellow troops.
It's sickening. When you think he can't possibly go lower, he does.
He's either the greatest performance artist of all time, or he's quite literally insane.
martha
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I'm thinking it's choice B.
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BVS
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His supporters have been pretty quiet since his convention. Has he hit a wall or peaked? Like you said he can't possibly go lower. I mean they'll still vote for him, but have they possibly grown tired of defending him?
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I will never say that he's hit his lowest point... because everytime i think that he finds a new low.
BVS
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He's antiestablishment; he just tells it like it is.
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martha
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He just says what we're all thinking.
Irvine511
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We need a businessman to run the country like its a business and we are all shareholders.
Even Kayleigh McEnany is throwing turd face under the bus on this issue.
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