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Old 07-27-2016, 10:46 AM   #331
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Yeah, all great points. The one thing that haunted Romney was the Hispanic vote, and it's obviously even worse for Trump this time around.

Part of it is personal perspective as well. I actually know 3 people in the last month that flipped to Trump (from Undecided).

Hopefully his momentum is short lived. I don't think this is going to be anywhere near the landslide for Clinton as some are suggesting based on where the polling is at right now though.
I think there are a lot of women out there. Possibly center republican types, that just will not vote for Trump. Women are a little more savvy and thoughtful when it comes to things like the future of their children and grandchildren.

I am also seeing a lot of reports of large increases in Latino registration because of Trump. I never wanted to run against Trump because he's a wild card. Ted Cruz would have been much preferred.

So yes, i am very cautious, and am reserving my optimism. I try to remember that now if she is solid in Virgina, Trump has to get all 3 PA, OH, and FL (I think) to pull this off. That is not gonna be easy. I hope this time Florida saves us, instead of ruining us.
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The Republican presidential nominee just asked a foreign power to hack into the Democratic nominee's emails.
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Not a bad example of structural gender bias (also, of poor design skills):



Hillary Clinton just won a presidential nomination. These newspapers ran front-page photos of her husband. - Vox
To be fair, the pictures are from the live event that they're covering, and Hillary wasn't at the live event.

USA Today went with a picture of Hillary on the big screen, and it looks ridiculous.
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To be fair, the pictures are from the live event that they're covering, and Hillary wasn't at the live event.

USA Today went with a picture of Hillary on the big screen, and it looks ridiculous.
The NY Times solution was elegant, though:

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The NY Times solution was elegant, though:

And that's why they're better than everyone else
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The Republican presidential nominee just asked a foreign power to hack into the Democratic nominee's emails.
And I was just saying that Trump hasn't said anything stupid in a while.
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In the meantime:

- Trump asks Russia to cyberattack US Government emails;
- Trump says he may recognize Crimea as part of Russia;
- Bill O'Reilly says the slaves that built the White House were "well-fed";
- Trump confuses Tim Kaine with former NJ governor Tom Kean (!!!)
- Trump won't release his taxes.
- Trump complains about AC in Virginia Hotel, threatens not to pay bill; (ok, this is silly, but it shows his general way of operating)

You can't make this stuff up.

Bear in mind, Trump now receives daily intelligence briefings from the CIA.
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Bear in mind, Trump now receives daily intelligence briefings from the CIA.
Can you imagine the questions he asks during the briefings?
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I used to think this was a joke, but I'm starting to think Trump is just in this for ego and might be fucking crazy.
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In the meantime:

- Trump asks Russia to cyberattack US Government emails;
- Trump says he may recognize Crimea as part of Russia;
- Bill O'Reilly says the slaves that built the White House were "well-fed";
- Trump confuses Tim Kaine with former NJ governor Tom Kean (!!!)
- Trump won't release his taxes.
- Trump complains about AC in Virginia Hotel, threatens not to pay bill; (ok, this is silly, but it shows his general way of operating)

You can't make this stuff up.

Bear in mind, Trump now receives daily intelligence briefings from the CIA.

That press conference is insane. Like, not just amateur hour shit-show insane, but "is Donald Trump an actual psychopath?" insane.

With his openly advocating for a foreign power to conduct espionage on US citizens, I hope his new nickname becomes Treasonous Trump.
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That press conference is insane. Like, not just amateur hour shit-show insane, but "is Donald Trump an actual psychopath?" insane.

With his openly advocating for a foreign power to conduct espionage on US citizens, I hope his new nickname becomes Treasonous Trump.
There was an article by Keith Olbermann discussing this very issue, that Trump is an actual psychopath.

We all knew he had an ego, but I really thought this was him playing a bit of a joke, turning into how far he can go.

But now, he's starting to become really scary.
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That press conference is insane. Like, not just amateur hour shit-show insane, but "is Donald Trump an actual psychopath?" insane.
Your questions is actually a serious one. He completely fits the diagnostic criteria for antisocial personality disorder:


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DSM-IV Definition

Antisocial personality disorder is characterized by a lack of regard for the moral or legal standards in the local culture. There is a marked inability to get along with others or abide by societal rules. Individuals with this disorder are sometimes called psychopaths or sociopaths.

Diagnostic Criteria (DSM-IV)

1. Since the age of fifteen there has been a disregard for and violation of the right's of others, those right's considered normal by the local culture, as indicated by at least three of the following:
A. Repeated acts that could lead to arrest.
B. Conning for pleasure or profit, repeated lying, or the use of aliases.
C. Failure to plan ahead or being impulsive.
D. Repeated assaults on others.
E. Reckless when it comes to their or others safety.
F. Poor work behavior or failure to honor financial obligations.
G. Rationalizing the pain they inflict on others.

2. At least eighteen years in age.

3. Evidence of a Conduct Disorder, with its onset before the age of fifteen.

4. Symptoms not due to another mental disorder.
I count at least 4 of the 7 factors (only 3 are needed). Given existing accusations by his wife, D could be in play too.
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The press conference was great for Canada. He wants to kill NAFTA unless he can get better terms. Hello, you already hosed us. Maybe we can get our energy sovereignty back now.
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What's both sad and frustrating is that if anyone else made the comments Trump made today, they'd be shunned. It's just another day for Trump. Will he even lose any ground after this?
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No he won't because his voters don't care. I don't understand why people are still fighting the tide here.

Many months ago, back when we all thought that he was nothing but an orange orangutan on a self-promotion tour, I heard a pundit say something very simple but that turned out to be very true (I even laughed at it at the time). That the other GOP candidates were trying to bring him down for lack of policy or knowledge - I'd dispute this but I suppose maybe it's true of Jeb - and that the Democrats were obsessing over the same but that this election was not going to be about policies or what you know. Because a large number, maybe even a majority of the voters did not care about those "things". Well there you have it.

Anecdotally I would say that there are no people that I've come across that agree with what Trump says 100% of the time. BUT, people supporting him latch on to one or two things that he has said that make sense to them and it's good enough. The rest isn't their concern.
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