2016 US Presidential Election Thread Part XI

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Why the hell would the DMC ever be so stupid as to use Craigslist for this? Like, seriously? Not to mention, the ad looks totally unprofessional. There's a 0% chance this is anything other than a hoax, either by disaffected Berners or by Republicans.


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Why the hell would the DMC ever be so stupid as to use Craigslist for this? Like, seriously? Not to mention, the ad looks totally unprofessional. There's a 0% chance this is anything other than a hoax, either by disaffected Berners or by Republicans.


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Maybe they were wanting intimate encounters too?
 
Oh there was: hidden my MSM.



But believe what u want, you can be willfully ignorant if you choose, afraid to face normal truth despite where it springs from.



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It is really, really rich of you to claim other people are being willfully ignorant and afraid to face the truth while you peddle these absolute non-stories as some kind of legitimate controversy.

You casually dismiss snopes as biased, and then you trot out plainly conservative websites as your sources?

I'm getting tired of your baiting and trolling. Find a better way to engage here or simply don't.
 
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SNOPES IS RUN BY A MAN AND A WOMAN WITH NO BACKGROUND IN INVESTIGATION USING GOOGLE.
Snopes.com has been considered the 'tell-all final word' on any comment, claim and email. Once negative article by them and people point and say, "See, I told you it wasn't true!" But what is Snopes? What are their methods and training that gives them the authority to decide what is true and what is not? For several years people have tried to find out who exactly was behind the website Snopes.com. Only recently did they get to the bottom of it. Are you ready for this? It is run by a husband and wife team - that's right, no big office of investigators scouring public records in Washington, no researchers studying historical stacks in libraries, no team of lawyers reaching a consensus on current caselaw. No, Snopes.com is just a mom-and-pop operation that was started by two people who have absolutely no formal background or experience in investigative research.
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David and Barbara Mikkelson pictured above; are from San Fernando Valley of California. They started their website 'Snopes' about 13 years ago. After a few years it began gaining popularity as people believed it to be unbiased and neutral. But over the past couple of years people started asking questions when 'Snopes' was proven wrong in a number of their conclusions. There were also criticisms the Mikkelsons were not really investigating and getting to the 'true' bottom of various issues, but rather asserting their beliefs in controversial issues.
In 2008, State Farm agent Bud Gregg hoisted a political sign in Mandeville, Louisiana referencing Barack Obama and made a big splash across the internet. The Mikkelson's were quick to "research" this issue and post their condemnation of it on Snopes.com. In their statement they claimed the corporate office of State Farm pressured Mr. Gregg into taking down the sign. In fact, nothing of the sort ever took place. A friend of Mr. Gregg personally contacted David Mikkelson to alert him of the factual inacuracy, leaving him Mr. Gregg's contact phone numbers. Mr. Mikkelson was told that Mr. Gregg would give him the phone numbers to the big exec's at State Farm in Illinois who would inform them that they had never pressured Mr. Gregg to take down his sign.
But the Mikkelson's never called Mr. Gregg. In fact, Mr. Gregg found out that no one from Snopes.com had ever contacted any one with State Farm. Yet, Snopes.com has kept their false story of Mr. Gregg up to this day, as the "final factual word" on the issue.

What is behind Snopes' selfish motivation? A simple review of their "fact-checking" reveals a strong tendency to explain away criticisms towards liberal politicians and public figures while giving conservatives the hatchet job. Religious stories and issues are similarly shown no mercy. With the "main-stream" media quickly losing all credibility with their fawning treatment of President Obama, Snopes is being singled out, along with MSNBC and others, as being particularly biased and agenda-modivated.
So if you really want to know the truth about a story or a rumor you have heard, by all means do not go to Snopes.com! You could do just as well if you were a liberal with an internet connection. Don't go to wikipedia.com either as their team of amateur editors have also been caught in a number of bold-faced liberal-biased untruths. (Such as Wikigate and their religious treatment of Obama.) Take anything these sites say with a grain of salt and an understanding that they are written by people with a motive to criticize all things conservative. Use them only to lead you to solid references where you can read their sources for yourself.
Plus, you can always Google a subject and do the research yourself. It now seems apparent that's all the Mikkelson's do

I will be outta action for a while recovering from lower leg surgery, sports medcine removed metal plate and hardware from lower left left that I busted in 2 places 8 years ago while hiking with my Beagle Mookie.

I may hobble over to see Hillary's America while I mend.
All open-minded truth seekers are welcome to attend.
I will buy them free *diamondbruno9flavored popcorn:up:

Keep hope alive.
Man these meds are #fun.

Bye for a while-

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I will be outta action for a while recovering from lower leg surgery, sports medcine removed metal plate and hardware from lower left left that I busted in 2 places 8 years ago while hiking with my Beagle Mookie.

I may hobble over to see Hillary's America while I mend.
All open-minded truth seekers are welcome to attend.
I will buy them free *diamondbruno9flavored popcorn:up:

Keep hope alive.
Man these meds are #fun.

Bye for a while-

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http://www.factcheck.org/2009/04/snopescom/




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I will be outta action for a while recovering from lower leg surgery, sports medcine removed metal plate and hardware from lower left left that I busted in 2 places 8 years ago while hiking with my Beagle Mookie.

I may hobble over to see Hillary's America while I mend.
All open-minded truth seekers are welcome to attend.
I will buy them free *diamondbruno9flavored popcorn:up:

Keep hope alive.
Man these meds are #fun.

Bye for a while-

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I already fell for the article of the Snopes couple running it out of their garage. But I still don't think they are the Gold Standard.


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I watched the full Obama speech this morning - without reading anything about it. Actually watched it with my 9-month-old, used the laptop as a lure to get him to crawl all over the basement. You do what you gotta do.

Anyway, what a beautiful speech. What a fantastic man, in many ways too good a man to be president (I remain convinced our best and brightest would never run for office for the most part). I cried at the end, because it seemed like the end of an era of class, civility, respect. How can even the most ardent Trump fan not be embarrassed by his lack of class compared to Obama? How can we even begin to imagine the disgusting, classless, offensive creature that he is occupying that role? Spewing nonsense from the pulpit? Policies aside, I actually think anyone who thinks Trump's temperament is at all acceptable should feel deeply ashamed. We are all better than this.

Hillary is far from perfect, but Obama trusts her to carry on his legacy and that's ultimately good enough for me.
 
I already fell for the article of the Snopes couple running it out of their garage. But I still don't think they are the Gold Standard.


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There will never be a 100% Gold Standard on every fact or story. I mean, a "confirmed quote" will still have an element of he said she said to it sometimes.

But provable facts are provable facts, we are not quite in the post fact world yet, regardless how many try.


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Oh there was: hidden my MSM.

But believe what u want, you can be willfully ignorant if you choose, afraid to face normal truth despite where it springs from.

https://www.conservativeoutfitters....rs-delegates-walk-out-at-dnc-convention-video



Cheers,

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LMOA. Aaaaaahhh, so when they panned out over the entire arena, The evil MSM photoshopped people in empty seats real-time! Wow. that is some impressive stuff!

I don't "believe what I want" I saw with my own eyes, approximately the same amount of the arena occupied at 8pm EST on night one, as I did at that time the next night of the walk-out. By the time 10pm came, it was full again. I don't see what you're missing here.
 
Anyway, what a beautiful speech. What a fantastic man, in many ways too good a man to be president (I remain convinced our best and brightest would never run for office for the most part). I cried at the end, because it seemed like the end of an era of class, civility, respect.

The way he carries himself should be the gold standard for anyone to occupy the presidency. And as a speaker he is without peer. Makes everyone else look like an amateur IMO.
 
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I will be outta action for a while recovering from lower leg surgery, sports medcine removed metal plate and hardware from lower left left that I busted in 2 places 8 years ago while hiking with my Beagle Mookie.

I may hobble over to see Hillary's America while I mend.
All open-minded truth seekers are welcome to attend.
I will buy them free *diamondbruno9flavored popcorn:up:

Keep hope alive.
Man these meds are #fun.

Bye for a while-

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I just recalled your sexist comments made to me a couple of years ago on Fb.

Cheers.
Have a good night.
 
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I wouldn't place too much emphasis on Snopes as being accurate: ran by a husband & wife team who are known Atheists and considered by some as liberal hacks.

Apparently this journalist believes the ad as authentic:



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And yet you deem Breitbart accurate? :lol:

Pretty soon you'll be citing newobserver.com and RT...
 
it seemed like the end of an era of class, civility, respect. How can even the most ardent Trump fan not be embarrassed by his lack of class compared to Obama? How can we even begin to imagine the disgusting, classless, offensive creature that he is occupying that role? Spewing nonsense from the pulpit? Policies aside, I actually think anyone who thinks Trump's temperament is at all acceptable should feel deeply ashamed. We are all better than this.

EXACTLY. I really, REALLY want the Trump supporters here to explain to me how and why Trump's temperament is going to be a good thing for this country, and the world at large, if he gets elected. Please. Please explain that to me.

Hillary is far from perfect, but Obama trusts her to carry on his legacy and that's ultimately good enough for me.

And yet again, :up:.
 
Just a little polling update.
The only outfit so far to do a national poll during the convention has been the right leaning Rasmussen. They did a poll over the 26th and 27th, and Clinton is at +1. She was at -1 a couple weeks ago and between -4 and -7 on polls prior.
So, that might mean that the bump has already started. It will be interesting to see the polling immediately following all 4 days.
 
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I will be outta action for a while recovering from lower leg surgery, sports medcine removed metal plate and hardware from lower left left that I busted in 2 places 8 years ago while hiking with my Beagle Mookie.

I may hobble over to see Hillary's America while I mend.
All open-minded truth seekers are welcome to attend.
I will buy them free *diamondbruno9flavored popcorn:up:

Keep hope alive.
Man these meds are #fun.

Bye for a while-

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:up: I enjoyed your posts.


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if someone new to the forum blew in here and did nothing but insult everyone, post a bunch of fake bs and receive repeated warnings from the mods in just a couple of days, pretty sure they'd be banned, and rightfully so.

he doesn't even have the excuse of not knowing the rules around here. it's nothing but shitpost after shitpost and since he showed up this thread has become terrible. good fucking riddance.

Eta: babydoll, i remember that sexist shit too, and you weren't the only one on the receiving end. we should be welcoming of people like this? no.
 
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Thank you again, fellow man, for explaining what a woman's motives really are.

I like how you consistently act like there's sexism involved here when I didn't vote for Kerry or Obama either. My views on the party and its top candidates really haven't changed with Clinton at the top of the ticket, but I was invested in the primary outcome for once thanks to Sanders.

I also voted for a female candidate (and ticket) for President in the general election before any of you, so there's that.
 
if someone new to the forum blew in here and did nothing but insult everyone, post a bunch of fake bs and receive repeated warnings from the mods in just a couple of days, pretty sure they'd be banned, and rightfully so.

he doesn't even have the excuse of not knowing the rules around here. it's nothing but shitpost after shitpost and since he showed up this thread has become terrible. good fucking riddance.

Eta: babydoll, i remember that sexist shit too, and you weren't the only one on the receiving end. we should be welcoming of people like this? no.


yep, he's been around a long, long time and insulted so many here along the way, including us longtime members and new ones. Yet lashes out when we dare to question anything he says.
 
Because honestly with the exception of a few anti-capitalism views you've expressed you align more with Trump, it's really not surprising that you're stumping for him now.

Never have and never will stump for the right. But I am bracing myself for a Trump presidency thanks to the poor candidate you've chosen for the rest of us...

2020 should be fun. If Hillary is President, her supporters will be complacent concerning the primaries and it would be the perfect time to mount a challenge. :up:

#ImWithReplacingHer
 
I like how you consistently act like there's sexism involved here when I didn't vote for Kerry or Obama either.

And I like how you consistently act as if it's the not voting for Hillary is the reason we call you out on your sexism. You are not sexist because you're not voting Hillary, no one ever even implied that. Your posts are viewed as sexist because they are filled with sexism, has nothing to do with Hillary.
 
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