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Old 07-23-2016, 09:59 AM   #976
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I was going to make some pithy comment about the perks of compulsory voting, but then it occurred to me: how consistent is turnout throughout the US? Are there some states where turnout is notoriously poor, or by contrast any where 70% would be viewed as horribly low?


In a presidential election year, voter tun out has been somewhere between 52 and 58% since 2000.

I'm not sure about compulsory voting, but I think having it on a regular workday on a Tuesday in November is idiotic. Move it to a weekend or make it a national holiday.
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This is a good point. Is Tim Kaine really the future of the Democratic Party?


If one believes in the Clintonian model -- moderate governors from the south -- then yes.
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In a presidential election year, voter tun out has been somewhere between 52 and 58% since 2000.

I'm not sure about compulsory voting, but I think having it on a regular workday on a Tuesday in November is idiotic. Move it to a weekend or make it a national holiday.

That wasn't quite my question though. I'm familiar with the overall turnout, but I would be surprised if that is pretty even nationwide. Are there specific states that reliably get turnout in the sixties, even seventies, or states that would be lucky to crack the mid-forties? I'd expect some regional variation, and moreover I would assume the battleground states that receive frequent visits from candidates and huge investment by parties to show comparatively better turnout figures than small states that are a foregone conclusion. If battleground states do not get better turnout, that to me would suggest much of the investment in them is ineffectual.

But I do wholeheartedly agree with you that a regular Tuesday is an absurd choice of day. Likewise I find the UK's use of Thursday to be unjustifiable but at least they leave the polls open very late to try to accommodate people on all schedules.
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That wasn't quite my question though. I'm familiar with the overall turnout, but I would be surprised if that is pretty even nationwide. Are there specific states that reliably get turnout in the sixties, even seventies, or states that would be lucky to crack the mid-forties? I'd expect some regional variation, and moreover I would assume the battleground states that receive frequent visits from candidates and huge investment by parties to show comparatively better turnout figures than small states that are a foregone conclusion. If battleground states do not get better turnout, that to me would suggest much of the investment in them is ineffectual.

But I do wholeheartedly agree with you that a regular Tuesday is an absurd choice of day. Likewise I find the UK's use of Thursday to be unjustifiable but at least they leave the polls open very late to try to accommodate people on all schedules.



This breaks it down:

http://bipartisanpolicy.org/library/2012-voter-turnout/

Looks like turnout is a bit higher than I initially thought. State breakdowns are interesting ... I only looked it over briefly and couldn't find much in the way of trends.
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My problem with Kaine is his economic views, but the Democratic Party long since resigned itself being the Wall Street Party Who Happen to Have the Right Social Views, so I really can't be surprised.
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Watched the official introduction rally in Miami.

Kaine was good. Really good. I'm feeling a lot more comfortable with this choice.
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Watched the official introduction rally in Miami.

Kaine was good. Really good. I'm feeling a lot more comfortable with this choice.
You should have known he was the best pick way back when I said it would be him. Have a little faith.
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For those of you outside the U.S., another thing you have to understand about Warren(and some other other senators that were being considered, Sherrod Brown and Corey Booker among them) is that they're all senators from states with Republican governors. If a senator becomes a vp pick, they vacate their senate seat, and a replacement for the seat is appointed by their state's governor.

So picking Warren or Brown or Booker would've essentially been giving a senate seat away just as we're trying to regain a majority in the senate this election cycle. We're not going to have the house of representatives for a while, so it is absolutely crucial that we at least do everything can to get the senate back, and that means not willfully throwing senate seats away.

This is true, but it's important to remember that it would only be until next year, when they would hold a special election for the seat.

So there's a danger in Virginia after the first year that Kaine's seat could switch to the GOP.
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I think you just made an astude prediction, funny if a GOP pickup gives a majority of some sort.
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All this appeal to "law and order" and chants of "lock her up" and everything is dangerous and trying to kill you -- this is what a strongman looks and sounds like.
yeah, you said it.

Very scary man
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what is the basis of your racist charge? perhaps a copy of the transscript will come out and you can high light all the things you are hearing. I am hearing nationalist remarks, that is not racist. To be for America, Americans does not mean only white people.
Well, I can remember Limbaugh saying that Merica was settled by certain people. And that that other people weren't necessarily as hard working, etc etc.

Life knows he appeals to nationalists and racists.
Way more than not these two idea are found together.
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Trump: I can fix all of America's problems!

Us: can you tell us how, specifically?

Trump: I can't actually explain it - you know what, just trust me.

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That's it, that's this whole speech.

Also, he totally only thanked his wife and Ivanka, even though three other children also gave speeches. [U]And gave Ivanka a pat on the ass before he took the podium. [/B]

Awkward.
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Didn't Nixon say "trust me" at n he ran in'68?
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