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Old 07-13-2016, 12:05 AM   #286
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I don't reeeeeally buy that argument anymore. I think when you live in a bubble like I do at times it's easy to think that but there are a hell of a lot of racist, sexist, bigoted young people. It just looks better because they don't oppose same-sex marriage.
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Old 07-13-2016, 12:19 AM   #287
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We are three weeks away from the DNC and Philadelphia's regional rail system just lost a third of its trains to mechanical problems over the weekend. It's gonna get ugly.
Catching up.

Oh, dear, as someone who has enjoyed a bunch of visits to Philly -
sorry to hear that for you locals, not fun. Good luck!
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No he doesn't. Young people are exceedingly liberal and it's been that way for decades. Trump may win with males in the fall (as to be expected), but he's going to lose with young males by a wide margin.

I don't know if you're being purposely obtuse?!

Context clues would tell you I was talking about how that's the only demographic where he can gain ground, not win.


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No charges against Clinton. I have a feeling this topic won't go away. Let's see how many congressional hearings we'll get up to with this one. I think it was 8 for Benghazi
I hope Hillary & others will remind people that the
Republican controlled Congress voted down requests prior to
Benghazi
to increase security there.
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I don't know if you're being purposely obtuse?!

Context clues would tell you I was talking about how that's the only demographic where he can gain ground, not win.


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To his defense, you said he "has a shot" with them. So as to suggest he has no shot with anyone else.
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To his defense, you said he "has a shot" with them. So as to suggest he has no shot with anyone else.

But only in the context of what a VP can bring to the mix, that's what we were talking about. Trump has destroyed relationships with all other demographics, I dare say he could bring on a Hispanic woman and still not win over any more than he has in both those demos.


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And I can't wait until THE first female president sells us out on social security with a "grand bargain" with the GOP, authorizes fracking around the country and backtracks on her TPP position.

Will the vagina even matter by that point?

Should it even matter now? Of course not. Only if you care more about superficial qualities than actual politics.
wait... really?

Just dropping the vagina word in with a lol predecessor to todays emojis to boot?!



And as someone involved in liberal/progressive politics since I was twelve (1965) (I'm 63 now) trying walk some kind of balance between idealism, pragmatism which things to draw a line at, which to to bend, when to possibility lose a fight to win a war etc etc.

Who as a social, a cultural, a political young activist who lived through the corriscating, firery
Hell
that was 1968 &1969 here in America - don't you dare call someone like me caring more about superficiality vs actual politics.
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l I hope u caught my apology to you yesterday! Or was it day & half ago? timezones!
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Oh, and yes, BMP ...

I'm damned tired of you saying how damn unlikeable Hillary Clinton is.


Just saying...
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I think one other thing that is patently obvious is that the Clintons are their own worst enemy. You would think that a person who clearly had designs on the presidency, who was serving in the SoS role that was inevitably going to be highly scrutinized by the opposition would understand the concept of doing everything above board and then some. But no. This was a witch hunt for sure but it's also contributory negligence on Hillary's part.
Yeah, I can agree w this.
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I don't know if you're being purposely obtuse?!

Context clues would tell you I was talking about how that's the only demographic where he can gain ground, not win.
But, by gaining ground, it's really got more to do with young people just not bothering to vote, resulting in Trump getting a higher share than expected. I doubt he'll actually persuade any significant number to his column.

Having read some article with polling concerning young voters on NPR today, I'm positive that youth turnout is going to drop quite a bit compared to the previous two cycles. Clinton just does not excite people the way Obama did.
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It's amazing to me that in a country with such a disturbing problem of limited voter turnout and political involvement, that some of you would be so seethingly angry about a candidate like Bernie garnering some enthusiasm.
It's good that he has brought more people in! I like Bernie. Have had achance to lsten to him for several years on a former l/p radio "consortium" ut it's possible some of the the things he wants to do could not be done the way he's thinking of having hem enacted policy why.

Someone pointed out thatvw all the things he wants to would cost X trillions of dollars there weren't enough millionaires out there to tax them to get this amount. Unfortunately I couldn't get to read the full article or long post.

And besides all that Ben as a secular Jew, and then a (democratic) socialist would just wither too many votes away....
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Oh, and yes, BMP ...

I'm damned tired of you saying how damn unlikeable Hillary Clinton is.


Just saying...
it's not only you, though. sure I don't like Hilary but I guess she IS the most appropriate candidate DNC can have currently.
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The meltdown amongst the fringe Bernie supporters is amusing.

Um, final sale?
this is fucking garbage. and disrespectful toward Bernie.
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I'll do you one better, I had a Bernie supporter arguing that Trump would be better than Clinton. She hated them both, but truly thinks Clinton is worse because Trump couldn't actually do the horrible things he talks about. Seriously.
:faceinhand: how.... naive? The way the man whips such hatred up w his big yap. That knows him & foreign policy? (shudders) His admiration of strongmemn too?

Hope you caught my post back to u, earlier on.
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