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Old 03-02-2016, 10:19 PM   #76
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The campaigns definitely hire data mining/analytics firms - the info is publicly filed. They also use the data for profiling voters and targeted ads.

Yeah, not the Republican Party. And that data is more specific to what's happening in locations in which the campaigns have foot soldiers in. They don't have infinite dollars to knock on everyone's doors.

What you see on the Internet in regards to national polls, from stuff like quinnipac etc. ... that's the highest possible resolution you can get for national scales, several months in advance. There's no conspiracy of hidden information.
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All that being said, I would rather someone go and write in a candidate,

I think its time for Deez Nuts to make a triumphant return to politics
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First things first, cobl, regarding your Cruz thing...I'm still digesting my dinner, thanks.

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I have no idea. But right now, with the Republican party being seriously scary, there's no way I would go rogue and vote for anyone other than the democratic nominee, even if I have to hold my nose.

Get your shit together, conservatives. Nominate someone sane for presidency, ditch the Jesus stuff as a party platform, join the 21st century, and I'd consider it.

All that being said, I would rather someone go and write in a candidate, or vote for some rando third party, rather than stay home and not vote at all. The voting rate in this country is appalling. ( I mean heck, I'd support making it a national holiday so people could get off work and vote, but we all know the right wing would never let that happen, as it might mean a bunch of poor-to-working class people voting Democrat.)
Agreed on all of this.
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Yeah, not the Republican Party. And that data is more specific to what's happening in locations in which the campaigns have foot soldiers in. They don't have infinite dollars to knock on everyone's doors.

What you see on the Internet in regards to national polls, from stuff like quinnipac etc. ... that's the highest possible resolution you can get for national scales, several months in advance. There's no conspiracy of hidden information.
There are plenty of private polling organizations used by the parties, such as Democracy Corps (mentioned in this article Democrat Pollster Predicts a 'Train Wreck' for GOP in the Fall - US News)
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There are plenty of private polling organizations used by the parties, such as Democracy Corps (mentioned in this article Democrat Pollster Predicts a 'Train Wreck' for GOP in the Fall - US News)

Yeah, and those polls are just as predictive and accurate as going and pulling up RCP and looking at whatever latest poll came out.

There's no conspiracy of hidden information out there. They know as much as you know, if you just read the sources.
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We're quite conservative at the moment, certainly more so than a Clinton presidency would be (at least socially). I think the major difference is the loud-mouthed race to be so insane that shocks people like me.
To be honest I think we pat ourselves on the back a bit too much that our politics supposedly isn't as crazy as America's. For example, our migration policy is cut from the same cloth or a more extreme one.

And the likes of Tony Abbott, Clive Palmer, Jacqui Lambie, Campbell Newman, Cory Bernardi, George Christensen, etc. would fit pretty snugly with the loudmouth insane Republicans. Cory's probably got a poster of fellow serial killer Ted Cruz on his wall.
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I come from a country where nobody votes so i don't get so disappointed by voter turnouts. but it's just me, i think.
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Just curious. If Kasich won the Republican nomination, would any democrats here consider voting for him over Clinton? Everyone seems to like the guy on both sides besides the Trump supporters (shocking). He's also killing Hillary in the head to head polls. RCP average has him at +7.4.


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To be honest I think we pat ourselves on the back a bit too much that our politics supposedly isn't as crazy as America's. For example, our migration policy is cut from the same cloth or a more extreme one.

And the likes of Tony Abbott, Clive Palmer, Jacqui Lambie, Campbell Newman, Cory Bernardi, George Christensen, etc. would fit pretty snugly with the loudmouth insane Republicans. Cory's probably got a poster of fellow serial killer Ted Cruz on his wall.

Cory has no chance of ever being PM though thankfully
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Cory has no chance of ever being PM though thankfully
Remember when we said that about Abbott?

Remember when we said that about Barnaby and the Nationals' leadership?

Remember when we said that about Campbell and the Queensland premiership? (Kieran might, anyway.)

Don't fucking discount anything in our mad post-Rudd political era. We are fortunate to lack the hyper-religiosity of mainstream American politics, but I'm not sure the path we're treading is that dissimilar.
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Miley weighs in on Trump

"This makes me so unbelievable scared and sad," Cyrus wrote of a woman holding a mountain lion. "Not only for our country but for animals that I love more than anything in this world."

Then she laid into Trump, who the supporter believes will protect hunters' rights: "YOU DT ARE NOT GOD NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU THINK YOU ARE!!!" penned Cyrus.

She added: "[And] if he doesn't think he is 'God' he thinks he is the fucking chosen one or some shit! We're all just fucking jam between his rich ass toes! Honestly fuck this shit I am moving if this is my president! I don't say things I don't mean!"


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I'm actually moving international before the election.

Just to make sure.
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I feel like this election of US prez largely consists of cults of personalities. hey, even Hilary is reliant of Bill at some extent for god's sake. that's as superficial as it can get.
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Just curious. If Kasich won the Republican nomination, would any democrats here consider voting for him over Clinton? Everyone seems to like the guy on both sides besides the Trump supporters (shocking). He's also killing Hillary in the head to head polls. RCP average has him at +7.4.
He's certainly the most sane of all the Republican candidates, yeah...but that Planned Parenthood stuff he's been involved with lately doesn't really endear him to me. The Republicans' attitude on that issue is among the many reasons I'm refusing to support them, because they've been really pissing me off with all of that.

I'm voting Democrat no matter what this election, though, so...
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