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Old 02-20-2016, 02:16 PM   #571
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I agree that the FBI and foreign governments could request the same backdoor, even as a condition for selling phones in their countries.
How is this different than foreign governments imposing all sorts of regulations as a matter of a business operating or making sales of products in their countries? And why should they not be allowed to do so?
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The thing is... Apple can do it... but what happens the next time the FBI comes knocking on the door with another phone? "Just this one time" is a super weak argument.
I'll guess Apple finds a smart way to accommodate the courts. Probably reasonable that they do here.

In the meantime, I'd slow-walk and shamelessly take advantage of the free advertising for the company's gadgets.

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Hilary won in Nevada, or at least expected to be. oh well.
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How is this different than foreign governments imposing all sorts of regulations as a matter of a business operating or making sales of products in their countries? And why should they not be allowed to do so?
Products like cellphones/smartphones are different from cars and clothes. I'm sure the Saudis have imprisoned (or worse) people for messages they found on phones (e.g. for acts illegal there but legal here). I doubt Apple would cave to the Saudis, but it's unfortunate RIM did.
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Trump projected to win SC. Whee!
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Jeb dropping out now. Giving speech on live TV.


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Surprised he didn't see it through. I figure he will support John Kasich.
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finally i don't have to refer to him as Jeb!
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Wow, I definitely didn't expect Jeb to throw in the towel this early.

And go on, Republicans, nominate Trump. Let's watch you self-immolate.
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Old 02-20-2016, 09:15 PM   #582
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Wow, I definitely didn't expect Jeb to throw in the towel this early.

And go on, Republicans, nominate Trump. Let's watch you self-immolate.
well I never expected Jeb(!) to lose momentum this early. but I guess this election is kinda "anything goes" type of election. I am really expecting Ben Carson to drop out but he apparently hasn't seen how awful is campaign is getting.
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Poor Jeb. He's just so...pathetic.
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I didn't think Jeb ever stood a chance. The jury's still out on Hillary too, but I wonder if the long-assumed Bush/Clinton/Bush revolving door is simply history.
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It's going to be Hillary vs Rubio.

And Trump as Perot.

And after that he'll start his own 24-hour cable news network.
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